Andy Mills wrote:
> 
> >Is this Mac Netscape?  I use Netscape Comm. 4.7 for Windows (95) and
> >have used 4.6 and as long as I actually include BORDER="0", I find
> >there is no gap, as is the case with every other browser I can get my
> >hands on.
> 
> An example of where this manifests itself more than anything, is if
> you have a `menu' consisting of a set of image buttons, one above the
> other. If you want these to butt up against each other at the top and
> bottom, you will more than likely have to WIDTH & HEIGHT in the TD
> tags to make sure the cells don't leave a gap between the images.

OK, try http://www.ross-gill.co.uk/table-test/ on some browsers and
check the source.  I can't vouch for any browser other than IE and NN
just now, but I have just checked it on Netscape 4.7 and it appears to
work.

- Chris

Hi guys

I have been offered an iMac (around 15 months old) for 350-400.

I know little about Macs, and I don't know this ones spec, so I need
some quidance.

Is this a decent price, and what will I get for my money.

Oh and BTW, I won't be dropping my Amiga :)
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> Hi guys
>=20
> I have been offered an iMac (around 15 months old) for =A3350-400.
>=20
> I know little about Macs, and I don't know this ones spec, so I need
> some quidance.
>=20
> Is this a decent price, and what will I get for my money.

It'll be a 233Mhz G3, pretty nippy considering. MacOS 8.5 at the =
lowest,
which you may want to reinstall and/or upgrade to MacOS 8.6 + all the
fixes or even MacOS 9. It should have a fair amount of software for it
as per the bundles, and some more besides I'd think.

It may well be blue. I hope you like blue.

For =A3400? Well I'd say it's a bit expensive. =A3350? Yeah, maybe. You =
can
get a iMac branny in any colour you like for about =A3800 which will be
twice the speed and spec of the one you'd be getting, so half price =
seems
about right. Say =A3335 and see if they'll take that ;)

--=20
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk=20
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Computer Centre
University of Leicester

Sealey, M. said something about [afb] Re: A question for the Mac
fraternity...

> > I have been offered an iMac (around 15 months old) for 350-400.
 
> > I know little about Macs, and I don't know this ones spec, so I need
> > some quidance.
 
> > Is this a decent price, and what will I get for my money.

> It'll be a 233Mhz G3, pretty nippy considering. MacOS 8.5 at the lowest,
> which you may want to reinstall and/or upgrade to MacOS 8.6 + all the
> fixes or even MacOS 9. It should have a fair amount of software for it
> as per the bundles, and some more besides I'd think.

I think he's moving to a power Mac, so I don't think software is
included. but I can press for some...
 
> It may well be blue. I hope you like blue.

Especially movies :) Actually my study is Pink (My wifes choice) so
it's a nice contrast.
 
> For 400? Well I'd say it's a bit expensive. 350? Yeah, maybe. You can
> get a iMac branny in any colour you like for about 800 which will be
> twice the speed and spec of the one you'd be getting, so half price seems
> about right. Say 335 and see if they'll take that ;)

Hmmm, thanks for that. In terms of web browsing etc I assume I'll be
OK? Especially as I'm currently doing it on a 030 with AGA :(

Also are there any must haves? Can I adapt my HP Laserjet III or will
I need to buy an apple printer? I understand you can get USB/Parallel
convertors, but what about drivers?

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=20
> > about right. Say =A3335 and see if they'll take that ;)
>=20
> Hmmm, thanks for that. In terms of web browsing etc I assume I'll be
> OK? Especially as I'm currently doing it on a 030 with AGA :(

Damn right it'll be okay ;)

With Internet Explorer 5 coming out soon for the Mac, it looks to
be the fastest, and most 100% compliant (yes, you read it right!)
internet platform in existance. End of March I think they're saying,
and until then you can be using the far-superior IE4.5 instead of
lame old Nutscrape.
=20
> Also are there any must haves?

That depends what you want to do. Office 98 is a must-have in
my book..

> Can I adapt my HP Laserjet III or will I need to buy an apple
> printer? I understand you can get USB/Parallel convertors, but
> what about drivers?

If it doesn't have drivers for a LaserJet III, then you can set
the printer up as a LaserWriter II NTX and it'll work fine. Every
laser printer on the planet is based on an Apple printer ;)

My OS8.1 PowerMac 7200/90 picks up the networked HP Laserjet 5si/mx
here okay. A similar Mac picked up an HP LaserJet 5 installed
locally ("LaserWriter Bridge"d onto the network, for the record)
only a few days ago. I seriously doubt that an iMac would have
any troubles. You might want to mail HP or look at their site for
recommendations on how to connect it all up. They may have a
"special" cable.

--=20
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk=20
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Computer Centre
University of Leicester

Sealey, M. said something about [afb] Re: A question for the Mac fraternity...

[snip]

> > Also are there any must haves?

> That depends what you want to do. Office 98 is a must-have in
> my book..

[snip]

Point taken. I was really meaning in terms of system software cd's or
other bits and pieces from the original carton...
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Hello Ben


> You obviously DRC... :)

Hmm.... i know my CD32 has A100 printed underneath it... maybe that's where
he's getting confused?

Best Regards

Ben Chapman

Digital Images

Hello!

> Evidently so.  So what actually is the CD in terms
> of A numbers, as it
> does have one.  I honestly thought it was the A300,
> so it looks like I'll
> have to take mine apart ...

Nah mate, the A600 was the A300, the CD32 is called
"Spellbound".

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Hello Steven Lloyd, on 24-Feb-00 15:19:29 you said about:
  [afb] sorry to bother again.... but what's happening? 

>what's the latest info, gettin information on the amiga is very hard,
>none of my newsagents have any amiga mags. Latest I knew was that MCC
>was scraped for a PPC and that it'sgoing LINUX. At the same time I've
>read news about Gateway selling Amiga to loyal ex-employees - (amino I
>think). Basically can anyone direct me to a good source of information
>except Amiga Format which  I really ought to subscribe to.

http://www.ann.lu
http://www.amiga.org
http://www.realdreams.cz/amiga/

To the best of my knowledge, they all keep archives of older news.

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Hi Paul

On 24-Feb-00, you wrote:

=> VisualPrefs would be a great start, cos a). I have it installed, and
=> b). I want to know exactly what each options in the prefs does. Maybe
=> then we can increase the number of reader submissions on VisualPrefs
=> configs! ;)

I thought the docs on the later versions of VP were pretty good. It was only
masking that caused me a few problems initially.

Vaughn

/*Thank You Ben Vost For Your Email Dated 23-Feb-00*/

> A "getting the most from Workbench" kind of thing is also on my list of
> possibles, but what would you guys (my very own focus group) want from it?

That sounds like a good idea. How about some tips on shell?
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in a fit of rage Sealey, M. said something about [afb] Re: 400MB oh dear?

> This is an Amiga list anyway. And I could trounce you in any
> discussion on Windows 2000 so you can stop now ;)

Spoilsport :p
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On Thu, Feb 24, 2000 at 04:02:58PM +0200, Sean FT wrote:

> What are Microsoft on Magic Mushrooms or what!"400MB" i know its for
> business,use but that really takes the p*ss.Can no one at Microsoft write
> software that is compact and well written,I take it they must have shares
> in the Harddrive industry!.

Remember that Microsoft's definition of an operating system includes a
/huge/ number of applications.

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On Thu, Feb 24, 2000 at 05:52:45PM -0000, Sealey, M. wrote:

> With Internet Explorer 5 coming out soon for the Mac, it looks to
> be the fastest, and most 100% compliant (yes, you read it right!)
> internet platform in existance. End of March I think they're saying,
> and until then you can be using the far-superior IE4.5 instead of
> lame old Nutscrape.

How can something be more 100% compliant than something else? :-)

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On 22-Feb-00 Matthew O'Neill said; 


> I seem to notice the strangest things when I'm pissed. Chicargo's club/pub
> in luton, monday night. 25 screens all displaying the chunky hand with a
> blue floppy disk. ahhh, 'tis a sight to behold =) A600 with scala by the
> way...

Whaaatt!!!! The A600 had the animated boot screen not the hand! That was the
the A500 
l8r
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Hi Matt

On 24-Feb-00, you wrote:

=> Which QNX GUI? If your desktop is the one on Aminet now, then that's
=> just a
=> mockup shot created in Photoshop. 

Yeah, that was my mk1 version. Its evolved a bit now. Much better. Do you mean
MY grab on Aminet is a mockup (it isn't) or the gui I based it on?

=>If you look at the latest Amigactive,
=> you'll
=> see what Photon looks like now: a bit bluier, more Mac-ish with it's
=> gadgets,
=> but the same with it's images (lovely colourdepth, with big black
=> borders)

I've seen it.
I prefered the original design. The new one's gadgets are crap. (IMHO, of
course!).

=> Anyone want me to make a VP theme for the *new* Photon?

If you like. But as I said, I don't like it as much. Are we starting a "design
a VP theme based on QSSL's latest whim" competition????

Vaughn

Hi Paul

On 24-Feb-00, you wrote:


=> Damn you people, you've got me working on a damn VisualPrefs config now
=> (well, I will be when I get home)!
=> 
=> The topic is - MacOS X

Blimey! If we all have a go, AF can have a Visualprefs Special on the CD!!!!! I
am honoured to have kickstarted this frenzy!

Vaughn

Hi, John,
	There were a series of these monitors with similar numbers but I
think the 1081 is a rebadged Philips, it's PAL only composite video, on a
phono input, it might have a seperate Luma and Chroma input, and probably
has Analog (PAL rates) RGB as well. Fairly low res, ok for video or non
interlaced.
As for age, I would go for A1000/A500 era. You might find a date printed
somewhere, or hidden in the first digits of the serial number, try a look at
www.philips.com
Pieter

-----Original Message-----
From: John Bragg

Gerald Mellor wrote:
> 
> On 23 Feb 00, at 16:13, Kevin Fairhurst wrote:
> 
> > The thing is, I wouldn't mind if it was a decent machine, but it's a P75
> > with 32Mb RAM!
> 
> The first thing to do when you get access to a PC is install RC5 and
> crack some keys for the Amiga team :) A P75 won't be incredibly
> fast, but every little helps, as Tesco say. (or is it Safeway?)

Yes, that's where my Athlon500Mhz (i refuse to buy an intel) is working
on most of the time and Lightwave rendering of course (we need a bloody
PPC version).

 
> Bauglir
> 

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On 24-Feb-00 Kevin Fairhurst said; =



> Evidently so.  So what actually is the CD=B3=B2 in terms of A numbers, =
as it
> does have one.  I honestly thought it was the A300, so it looks like I'=
ll
> have to take mine apart ...

an A100

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On 23-Feb-00 Bill Griffin said; 

> While helping the owner of Centsible Software sort through his latest
> purchase, I came across the owners manual for an A300 (this is NOT a
> misprint, and it is not an A3k). Now, in looking through the manual, I
> was able to determine that this computer was brought out under a
> different name. Do you know what it is?

I know what it is. The most hated amiga of all. the Amiga A600.

theres your answer

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On 24-Feb-00, Ben Vost wrote:

>> Also the sleeve is better than the case (my CD rack has drastically
>> overfilled), the binding makes no difference and please get rid of the
>> floppies so we can have more info in the AFCD in the mag.

> Can't get rid of the floppies yet, there are still more than 1000 people
> that buy the floppy edition - a significant number now...

What about a plain edition? with no cover media like .net does?

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On 23-Feb-00, Alex Furmanski wrote:

> Oooh, get this fact-fans! A TV picture is run at 24 frames/sec whereas
> films are recorded at 25 fps 

Yup, although the interlace makes it smoother in modern tv programs because
they actually make use of them to get 50fps

> (I think, they might be the other way around)

yup :)

> so when they show a film on the telly they have to chop a few frames out
> here and there so what was a 180 minute film in the cinema ends up as a
> 179 minute film on TV (or something).

And all their voices go a little bit squeeky....

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Hello Christopher Ross-Gill, on 24-Feb-00 17:07:25 you said about:
  [afb] Re: HTML question 

[snip]

>> An example of where this manifests itself more than anything, is if
>> you have a `menu' consisting of a set of image buttons, one above the
>> other. If you want these to butt up against each other at the top and
>> bottom, you will more than likely have to WIDTH & HEIGHT in the TD
>> tags to make sure the cells don't leave a gap between the images.

>OK, try http://www.ross-gill.co.uk/table-test/ on some browsers and
>check the source.  I can't vouch for any browser other than IE and NN
>just now, but I have just checked it on Netscape 4.7 and it appears to
>work.

That's because you have put *all* of the images within *one* table cell.
I'm on about when you put *one* image in *one* table cell.

Besides, I did forget about something, using WIDTH and HEIGHT in table
cells won't always work. It's the way you lay out your code that can
cause problems, e.g.;

 <TR>
  <TD>
   <IMG SRCe"piccy.jpg">
  </TD>
 </TR>

Will cause the gaps in NN and Aweb, etc. But, by laying out in the
following way, won't;

 <TR>
  <TD><IMG SRC="piccy.jpg"></TD>
 </TR>

To see what I mean, take a look at the following page's source using NN
(4.7 here) or Aweb: http://www.wharne.u-net.com/swag/test.htm to see
what I mean.

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On Tue, 22 Feb 2000, Oliver Masters wrote:

> My questions are; What does the CC_Reset fix do? Is it essential? What will
> happen if I don't bother with it? and finally; Does anyone know where I can
> lay my hands on a list of suitable network cards (preferably with UTP
> connection rather than BNC) that have been proven to work properly on an
> A1200 (with or without the fix).

you want t use RJ-45 - its the best. as for CCReset...what'll happen
wihout it done? Well, the card will work when you boot up your
machine..but wont work if you warm reboot

alan

On Wed, 23 Feb 2000, Simon Mason wrote:

> try to download an MP3 I get an error message saying "cannot log in as
> anonymous"
> (the site that is) - any thoughts?

yes..its not an anonymous FTP site - you need to have an account ID and
passwd - usually for someones own little private machine

alan

On Tue, 22 Feb 2000, Matthew O'Neill wrote:

> On 21-Feb-00, Kevin Fairhurst wrote:
> 
> > Ben would be well and truly scr^H^H^Htroubled by this, I'm sure
> 
> What on earth is ^H^H^H ? I've seen several similar things on your mails
> before

??? its delete - ctrl-H is the standard control set to do this
job..welcome to all us nerdies who've used Terminal programs for too
long ;-)  people usually put ^H in hei messages deliberately to let
people know what they were "originally" going t say - just to show that
they'vr calmed down a bit and are being diplomatic

alan

On Tue, 22 Feb 2000, Brian Gyles wrote:

> Na shoting not his sort of thing I belive hockey sticks (indoor) are
> more apporate..
> 
> (god its scary what you can find out about people on the net)... 

;-) so, how did you find out about my hockey pursuits? ;-)

http://welcome.to/unihoc ?

alan

Anthony Prime wrote:
> 
> Hi guys
> 
> I have been offered an iMac (around 15 months old) for 350-400.
> 
> I know little about Macs, and I don't know this ones spec, so I need
> some quidance.

Try to find out how much video-memory it has, i believe the old IMac's
had only 2MB.
If so maybe you have to upgrade it.

> 
> Is this a decent price, and what will I get for my money.
> 
> Oh and BTW, I won't be dropping my Amiga :)

Thank God!

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On Wed, 23 Feb 2000 riksweeney@hotmail.com wrote:

> Is now available from 
> 
> http://devnull.owl.de/~frank/GLQuakeWOS.gz

8-) What a weekend this will be!

alan

hi,

di someone on this mailling list ask for a yamaha XGMIDI daughtr card
for their Amiga - a la the DB50 - or whatever it is?

If so, plase contact me a.s.a.p. as i have a source of one.. and tell me
how much you would be after for it!

alan

Hello Ben

On 24-Feb-00, you wrote:


> Talking of which, it would be nice to update the tools part of the AFCD.
> What do you all think should be in there?

MagicTV2 has been a saviour in this time of waiting for a BVIsion.
WBCtrl and RaWBInfo are good, and FBlit is another must for non- gfx card
owners.

Regards

        Sandy

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Hello Wesley

On 24-Feb-00, you wrote:


>> Evidently so.  So what actually is the CD=B3=B2 in terms of A numbers,=
 as it
>> does have one.  I honestly thought it was the A300, so it looks like I=
'll
>> have to take mine apart ...
> =

> an A100

In that case, what was the CDTV? An A50?

Were there any other Amigas which has alternate names, in addition to the=

600 and CD32?

Regards

        Sandy

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Hi Gerald 

On 24-Feb-00, you wrote:


> The first thing to do when you get access to a PC is install RC5 and 
> crack some keys for the Amiga team :) A P75 won't be incredibly 
> fast, but every little helps, as Tesco say. (or is it Safeway?)

> Bauglir



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Hi Ben 

On 24-Feb-00, you wrote:

> Hi Alexander,

>>    What about "Getting the most from your Internet software" setting up,
>> configuring and usage to get maximum speed and enjoyment surfing the
>> Internet and using mail and news packages.

> Again?!
 

    Going by the amount of mail I read with questions about it I would say
yes, but it would need to be a more advanced tutorial than usual. It would
seem more and more people want to understand the innards of their software
rather than tickle the surface, but then this is academic as you will have
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On Thu, 24 Feb 2000 20:09:53 +0000 (GMT), kcci1@central.susx.ac.uk wibbled...

> ??? its delete - ctrl-H is the standard control set to do this
> job..welcome to all us nerdies who've used Terminal programs for too
> long ;-)  people usually put ^H in hei messages deliberately to let
> people know what they were "originally" going t say - just to show that
> they'vr calmed down a bit and are being diplomatic

You're doing it again. This has already been answered several times
since it was originally posted *ON TUESDAY*. If there's nothing new to
add, DON'T BOTHER.

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How many orders did they got so far for NighLong PPC? And for 68k?

Hi Ben

> > Oooh, get this fact-fans! A TV picture is run at 24 frames/sec whereas
> > films are recorded at 25 fps (I think, they might be the other way
around)
> > so when they show a film on the telly they have to chop a few frames
out
> > here and there so what was a 180 minute film in the cinema ends up as
a
> > 179 minute film on TV (or something).
>
> It's true but the other way around.

Oh well, I'm quite pleased I managed to remember that much!

> I'm sure we'll get
> a mail from Tim Siefert in about a week's time explaining all this very
> succinctly.

I wouldn't expect anything less from him ;-)

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On Thu Feb 24 I found an old lamp with Paul Laycock trapped inside, crying for [afb] Re: Slow boot-up
> > What makes it worse is that I have OS3.5, which causes a reboot as
> > part of setpatch AND
> > Fusion's rsrvmem thing, which also reboots the machine.
> 
> I know what you mean! My Amiga reboots *three times* before I can do
> anything; SetPatch (OS3,5), Oxypatcher, and the PPC.library emulation
> all have to reboot. Wouldn't it be nice if they could all load
> themselves in, then reboot only once?

Well, you could do as I do and put the PPC library emulation call just
before SetPatch without the Reboot argument, so that you set up both
3.5 and PPC libemu in one reset on the first bootup.

Regards,
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Hi Samuel

> > It's been a while and like the prodical son I return.
>
> Welcome back into the breach, once more my friend.  (Ok, so thats not
> exactly right, but you get the jist)

Surely the next line should be something along the lines of "anyone
stepping on me - you'll get burned"?

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July.

Hi Everybody,

> saw it there, on the bottom of the machine, on a sticker, THE A
> NUMBER!! =

> Typical huh?
> =

> Anyway a CD=B3=B2=A0is an A100 ... I knew it was something like A300 an=
yway!
 =

   Well, I would have thought it'd be nearer A1200, as that's practically=
 what it is. Something like an A1300 or 1400 or sommin.

See ya :)
-- =

       Manta Soft  -  Amiga programing & web page designing
          http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/       ICQ: 21829166
          Homepage updated 22/1/00 - Large hompage update       =

  - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- -
There is no problem too big or too complex...
                                That can't be run away from.

I had an email from someone asking how to set the clock on a CDTV. I've
never owned one so I haven't been able to answer. Can anyone help them?
--
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Amiga Interactive Guide http://aig.amiga.tm
Mystery of Life? I found it on Aminet!

Hi Everybody,

>      Well the Ce-Bit started today and as usual all roads and telephone=

> lines around Hannover were Gridlocked by 09:00Hrs this morning.Anyway
> Windows 2000 was what all the radio presenters were talking about from =
the
> show(can't understand why!)and the fact that it needs about 400MB hardd=
isk
> space to install it?.

   Whats shocking about that? It's no more then Windows 98 takes up is it=
? =


See ya :)
-- =

       Manta Soft  -  Amiga programing & web page designing
          http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/       ICQ: 21829166
          Homepage updated 22/1/00 - Large hompage update       =

  - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- -
Because of the rotation of the earth, an object can be thrown farther if =
it is thrown west.
--The Miscellanea Digest

Hi Alan

I have a friend in Germany, Sean email BloodStain@t-online.de who is
after this card!

"alan l.m. buxey" <kcci-@central.susx.ac.uk> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=48883
> 
> hi,
> 
> di someone on this mailling list ask for a yamaha XGMIDI daughtr card
> for their Amiga - a la the DB50 - or whatever it is?
> 
> If so, plase contact me a.s.a.p. as i have a source of one.. and tell
me
> how much you would be after for it!
> 
> alan
> 

Hi Andy

> To see what I mean, take a look at the following page's source using NN
> (4.7 here) or Aweb: http://www.wharne.u-net.com/swag/test.htm to see
> what I mean.

THANK YOU ANDY!  Here, have a virtual-sloppy-kiss.  If I were female I'd
offer you my first-born too.

Extremely lovely job
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Hello Kevin

In the CacheCDFS prefs you change the cycle gadget to check for Mac HFS
CDs first. I can't be more specific cos the prefs proggy crashes here
whenever I try to run it :(

Just got around to this to day and this works great now I get to watch Gwen
Stefani scream her head off on my computer bet your all jealous now:-)

Hello Andrew Crowe, on 24-Feb-00 21:34:29 you said about:
  [afb] Re: 400MB oh dear? 

[snip]

>> show(can't understand why!)and the fact that it needs about 400MB harddisk
>> space to install it?.

>   Whats shocking about that? It's no more then Windows 98 takes up is it? 

Win98SE takes up about 345Mb on my "other machine"...

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Hello Toffypops

On 22-Feb-00, you wrote:

> Anyone here hungry?..
> We all know that...well....ANY amiga user eats a lot of pizza...

Not me, makes me feel sick :O{P}

> 
> Anyone here who would like to see my recipe for my home-made-pizza
> either
> in AF or on the AF cd?......to make on lonely nights when the hunger
> gets you?....:D

-- 
Regards, Steve 
-----------------------------------------
A1200, 68030,  16mb Fast Ram,
Microvitec Monitor
*Running OS3.5*
800mb IDE hard drive, 4x IDE Mitsumi CDrom drive
Amiga Fax Modem, Epson LQ100+ Printer
MPS 1270 Inkjet Printer +

A1200,4mb Ram, Philips Monitor, star colour
printer

Still got the A600,030/33mhz 8 mb fast ram!
-----------------------------------------

Greetings  David 

On 24-Feb-00, you wrote:

> Hello all.

> I have an A1200 with a Blizzard 060 with SCSI board. It takes
> forever to boot up.

What do you mean by "forever"? I have the same blizzard1260+scsi and
there's a delay of about 5 seconds.

> Regards

> David


Regards

Andy
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/PGP Key available on request/

Always remember that you are unique.  Just like everyone else.

Greetings  Andy 

On 23-Feb-00, you wrote:


> <next arsehole>

> Just one question...

> How do you know that the limit has been reached, if you don't get
> the moderator mails? And before you say it, Ben doesn't always post
> saying that the limit has been reached...

>> Mash - waiting for the next arsehole to have a go at me in this
>> mail

> </next arsehole>

For someone who left the list a while back because of an arguement, or
whatever; you seem very keen to keep this one going.


Regards

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"Restore the peace by any means
Shoot first, then question the enemies"
Buju Banton

Hi Alan

> > try to download an MP3 I get an error message saying "cannot log in as
> > anonymous"
> > (the site that is) - any thoughts?
>
> yes..its not an anonymous FTP site - you need to have an account ID and
> passwd - usually for someones own little private machine

If it's their MP3 collection the username is often mp3 and the password is
mp3 also, but I'm not guaranteeing anything.

Lovely job
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Mash said this:
> > Your thread didn't tell me what I wanted to know, mine did. Problem?
>
> I asked precisely the same question....
>
> Mash -

Hiya,

Sorry, I missed the beginning of your thread, by the time I picked it up it
did not provide the answers I needed, so I asked my own question and got my
own answer. Surely that is what we are here for?

I don't want to start another 3 week pointless argument, so can we just
leave this? I got my answer, you got yours, who cares if both threads were
similar?

Oll

On Thu, Feb 24, 2000 at 08:06:54PM +0000, Alan L.M. Buxey wrote:

> you want t use RJ-45 - its the best. as for CCReset...what'll happen
> wihout it done? Well, the card will work when you boot up your
> machine..but wont work if you warm reboot

You don't necessarily want to use RJ 45 (I don't) - 10Base2 is easier to
manage if you have a large number of machines in a single room and avoids
the need for a hub. You can generally get around the CC_RESET problem by
pulling out and reinserting the card, although this is obviously harder if
it's inside a tower...

-- 
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On Thu, Feb 24, 2000 at 09:15:38PM -0000, Gareth Knight wrote:
> I had an email from someone asking how to set the clock on a CDTV. I've
> never owned one so I haven't been able to answer. Can anyone help them?

On the boot-up screen (the one with the rotating CDTV logo and the
CD) press either A or B on the remote. It'll enter the preferences screen
- simply highlight the clock and date sections with the directional pad
and type in the new details on the numberic pad on the remote. Press B to
quit out and the clock will remain set until the power is unplugged
(switching the machine off is fine).

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@cam.ac.uk

On Thu, Feb 24, 2000 at 08:15:45PM +0000, Sandy Brownlee wrote:

> Were there any other Amigas which has alternate names, in addition to the
> 600 and CD32?

The A570 (CD addon for the A500) was called the A690 up until the A300 was
redesginated the A600. I think the A1200 was sold in some places as the
A1500 (the A1500 sold in the UK was a rebadged A2000 specific to the UK -
I don't think it was sold anywhere else like that, although I could be
wrong) and the A3000T was called the A3500 during development. That's all
I can think of off-hand...

-- 
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Hi Alan,

[snip]

> >(preferably with UTP
> > connection rather than BNC)

[snip]

> you want t use RJ-45 - its the best.

IIRC, UTP and RJ-45 are the same thing.

Martin, cursing Mr Thornton for beating me to that other reply... ;)
-- 
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Andy Mills said, 

> Besides, I did forget about something, using WIDTH and HEIGHT in table
> cells won't always work. It's the way you lay out your code that can
> cause problems, e.g.;

>  <TR>
>   <TD>
>    <IMG SRCe"piccy.jpg">
>   </TD>
>  </TR>

> Will cause the gaps in NN and Aweb, etc. But, by laying out in the
> following way, won't;

>  <TR>
>   <TD><IMG SRC="piccy.jpg"></TD>
>  </TR>

This is correct. A line feed is considered white space in the HTML spec

<TD>
<IMG SRC="piccy.jpg">
</TD>

should be rendered the same as

<TD> <IMG SRCe"piccy.jpg"> </TD>



Neil
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The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
http://www.wire.net.uk
-- 
If I save time, when do I get it back?

> You don't necessarily want to use RJ 45 (I don't) - 10Base2 is easier to
> manage if you have a large number of machines in a single room and avoids
> the need for a hub. You can generally get around the CC_RESET problem by
> pulling out and reinserting the card, although this is obviously harder if
> it's inside a tower...
>
> --
> Matthew Garrett | mjg59@cam.ac.uk

I already have a hub as all my PC network cards are RJ-45, I agree 10Base2
is simpler, but my machines are spread around the house and it gets a bit
fiddlier then. With RJ-45 I can run the cable through the walls and have
sockets in each room.

I started off with 10Base2, but as the network spread out it became less
practical.

Se ya later,

Oll

>
> IIRC, UTP and RJ-45 are the same thing.
>
> Martin, cursing Mr Thornton for beating me to that other reply... ;)

UTP (Unshielded Twisted Pair?) is the cable, RJ-45 is the connector
(overgrown phone plug)on the end.

See ya later,

Oll

Hello Andy Kinsella, on 24-Feb-00 20:55:57 you said about:
  [afb] Re: limit 

[snip]

>> </next arsehole>

>For someone who left the list a while back because of an arguement, or

That `argument' was the deciding factor in why I left, but certainly not
the only one.

>whatever; you seem very keen to keep this one going.

Haven't you noticed that I've not said anything about Mash, or replied
to any of his posts since yesterday? As far as I'm concerned, the
subject is dead on this list. So please, don't start resurrecting it.

BTW, I'm really not trying to flame you, or start another argument here,
that's the last thing I want. Believe it or not.

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Hi

> HTTP://www.mashman.co.uk

It doesn't work - you've got your frameset tag in your body tag.

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On 24 Feb 00, at 1:12, Paul Laycock wrote:

>> You're running Birdie in AGA with 64 colours? Is it worth it? I'd
>> like to see a screenshot :)
> 
> I've tried Birdie in 64 colours, and the results are pretty good. Looks
> crap in 8 though! ;)

I tried Birdie some time ago, in 64 colours, and ISTR getting rather 
blocky effects from it. Maybe I should try it again, who needs all that 
Chip RAM anyway ;)

Gerry

On 24 Feb 00, at 7:42, Samuel Byford wrote:

> Most stuff doesnt require that much harddisk space. you can pick up New
> 2Gb HD for around 80 pounds.  Second hand they should be even cheaper.

I don't know where you shop, but if you're paying 80 quid for a hard 
drive you should be expecting about 8GB for your money. Can you 
even buy 2GB hard drives anymore? :)

Gerry

On 24 Feb 00, at 9:21, Kevin Fairhurst wrote:

>> The first thing to do when you get access to a PC is install RC5 and 
>> crack some keys for the Amiga team :) A P75 won't be incredibly 
>> fast, but every little helps, as Tesco say. (or is it Safeway?)
> 
> Yeah that's something I'm planning on doing.  However, I've yet to set up a
> net connection on it yet - that's planned for later.

You don't need to have a net connection to take part in RC5 on it. 
Just download the blocks using a machine that *is* connected, and 
transfer them to the other machine on floppy disk.

Gerry

Matthew O'Neill
> He was talking about the free and legal ones which had the url printed in
> that german magazine

The software licence on these games usually indicate they are free for
downloading, that's all. It is VERY unlikely this licence would include
giving them away on magazine CDs.
--
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Amiga Interactive Guide http://aig.amiga.tm
Mystery of Life? I found it on Aminet!

Matt Sealey heralded his return thus:
> Well work has slowed down slightly, so I think I can afford to
> mess around on AFB for a while (although not this afternoon
> 'cos I'm reconfiguring two Macintoshes)
>

Welcome back Matt,

I have a strange vision of you sewing buttons back onto pervy old mens
coats.

See ya later,

Oll

Hello, all

When i press the key (the one before number 1) all the MUI progs hide
for some reason does anyone know what's causing it ?

I am using British key map 

-- 
Adam James

(PGP key avail)

andy kinsella <andy.k-@ukonline.co.uk> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=48901
> Greetings  David 
> 
> On 24-Feb-00, you wrote:
> 
> > Hello all.
> 
> > I have an A1200 with a Blizzard 060 with SCSI board. It takes
> > forever to boot up.
> 
> What do you mean by "forever"? I have the same blizzard1260+scsi and
> there's a delay of about 5 seconds.

You speed demon you. Mine takes 55 seconds for the workbench screen to
begin appearing.

If I'm interpreting the various screen flashes and floppy drive checks
correctly, it seems to be taking 15 seconds for each series of SCSI
device checks.

After that, there's about 10 seconds to actually run the startup
sequence etc, ending with Workbench.

How have you managed to get a 5 second startup!  My hard drive sounds
like it takes almost that long to spin up.

Regards

David

Hello Anthony

> Hi guys
> =

> I have been offered an iMac (around 15 months old) for =A3350-400.
> =

> I know little about Macs, and I don't know this ones spec, so I need
> some quidance.
> =

> Is this a decent price, and what will I get for my money.

They were around the =A3900 mark when new so not to bad, better =A3300 fa=
ir price.

                 Cheers all the best

                       Ken =





  =

On Thu, 24 Feb 2000 10:01:40 -0800 (PST), Mirrorball (djoutlaws@yahoo.com) wrote:

> Nah mate, the A600 was the A300, the CD32 is called
> "Spellbound".

It was also known as the A100 ...

Kev

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On Thu, 24 Feb 2000 22:00:33 +0000, Geoffrey Dodd (geoff@miggy.mycomputer.org.uk) wrote:
> Hello Kevin

Hello!

> > In the CacheCDFS prefs you change the cycle gadget to check for Mac HFS
> > CDs first. I can't be more specific cos the prefs proggy crashes here
> > whenever I try to run it :(
> 
> Just got around to this to day and this works great now I get to watch Gwen
> Stefani scream her head off on my computer bet your all jealous now:-)

It worked?  Cool.  I've still not worked out why CacheCDFS crashes for me
so I'll reinstall it from BB1, and if that fails, from my WB3.5 CD  :-)

Enjoy you're movies :)

Kev

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> On Thu, Feb 24, 2000 at 05:52:45PM -0000, Sealey, M. wrote:
> 
> > With Internet Explorer 5 coming out soon for the Mac, it looks to
> > be the fastest, and most 100% compliant (yes, you read it right!)
> > internet platform in existance. End of March I think they're saying,
> > and until then you can be using the far-superior IE4.5 instead of
> > lame old Nutscrape.
> 
> How can something be more 100% compliant than something else? :-)

Easy. Mozilla says it'll be 100% compliant, but it fails quite a few
compliance tests. Opera is supposed to be working towards 100% compliance,
too, but it doesn't.

But IE5 really trounces them by being 100% STANDARDS compliant, and
also 100% compliant with Microsoft's extensions *too*.

200% compliant, then :)

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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

> Hi Matt
> 
> On 24-Feb-00, you wrote:
> 
> > Which QNX GUI? If your desktop is the one on Aminet now, 
> > then that's just a mockup shot created in Photoshop. 
> 
> Yeah, that was my mk1 version. Its evolved a bit now. Much 
> better. Do you mean MY grab on Aminet is a mockup (it isn't)
> or the gui I based it on?

The GUI it was based on. Photoshop, beleive me ;)

> => but the same with it's images (lovely colourdepth, with big black
> => borders)
> 
> I've seen it. I prefered the original design. The new one's gadgets
> are  crap. (IMHO, of course!).

What? How can you see them in such tiny screengrabs? :)

> => Anyone want me to make a VP theme for the *new* Photon?
> 
> If you like. But as I said, I don't like it as much. Are we 
> starting a "design a VP theme based on QSSL's latest whim"
> competition????

QSSL's "latest whim" is how it looks full stop. It never ever
looked like the "mockup" in production, that shot was made up
practically MONTHS before we ever saw it. In fact, I seem to
beleive that Ben had seen the shot about 6 months before at a
show or something?

..to entice and amaze ;)

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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

Hi Gerald,

> I tried Birdie some time ago, in 64 colours, and ISTR getting rather 
> blocky effects from it. Maybe I should try it again, who needs all
that 
> Chip RAM anyway ;)

If you use FBlit, then it doesn't really matter ;)

Paul Laycock

Does anyone know if you take a Hard Disk out of an A1200 and plug it
into an A4000 will everything work as before, or will all the software
have to be reinstalled ??  The two machines would both have 3.1 roms
and run OS3.5 .

Many Thanks
Duncan

> Does anyone know if you take a Hard Disk out of an A1200 and plug it
> into an A4000 will everything work as before, or will all the software
> have to be reinstalled ??  The two machines would both have 3.1 roms
> and run OS3.5 .

Probably.

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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

On Fri, 25 Feb 2000 01:57:44 -0800, D Race (duncanrace@hotmail.com) wrote:
> Does anyone know if you take a Hard Disk out of an A1200 and plug it
> into an A4000 will everything work as before, or will all the software
> have to be reinstalled ??  The two machines would both have 3.1 roms
> and run OS3.5 .

As long as you have nothing that accesses the PCMCIA slot and nothing that
accesses the IDE interface such as IDEFix then in theory you should be able
to just plug in and go.  That's what I did!

The thing to watch out for is the 040 in the A4k (I presume it has an 040
in it) - if the A1200 doesn't have one, make sure you've got a copy of
68040.library in libs: on teh A1200 before you do plug into the A4k.  Oh
and anything like gfx card software or PPC datatypes might cause problems ...

Kev

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You haven't been on this list for ages,where have you been?

> You haven't been on this list for ages,where have you been?

Busyland.

Hi M.

> What do you all think of the QNX/Quake/Unreal thingy?

Which is?

> Is Matt O'Neill still being annoying like people tell me he
> is (he should be banned :)? 

Oi!, do something annoying to get them off my back 

Mash - 
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I know the combination to your locked baud rate..

On 25 Feb 00, at 1:22, Paul Laycock wrote:

>> I tried Birdie some time ago, in 64 colours, and ISTR getting rather 
>> blocky effects from it. Maybe I should try it again, who needs all
>> that Chip RAM anyway ;)
> 
> If you use FBlit, then it doesn't really matter ;)

Well I don't, it makes my Amiga too unstable.

Gerry

> > > I tried Birdie some time ago, in 64 colours, and ISTR 
> > > getting rather  blocky effects from it. Maybe I should
> > > try it again, who needs all that Chip RAM anyway ;)
> > 
> > If you use FBlit, then it doesn't really matter ;)
> 
> Well I don't, it makes my Amiga too unstable.

I think you'll find it's the OTHER conflicting patches, and
the lack of proper configuration makes your Amiga unstable.

I'm sure if you culled a few of the hacks MCP decides you
need, as per the docs, and changed the patch orders (and
installed SetMan or TRSaferPatches) it'd work fine.

It works fine on my machine, which is - as usual - solid
as a rock.

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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

 _Replying to a message_:

 By:  Ben Vost <ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk>
 To:  afb <afb@egroups.com>
 On:  15-Feb-00 23:19:33
 Re:  [afb] Re: Guess what's on AF135?

Hi Ben,

>> It is with a bittersweet taste in my mouth, though,
>> knowing that whatever program, it probably never will
>> be bugfixed/upgraded anymore.

> Bingo! The only I'm keen to do this right now is that a) I know these
> programs will never be developed further anyway, thus removing the
> argument that full coverdisk software is killing the Amiga market and
> b) that I'm probably paying the authors more money than they've
> received in the last year for their software. :(

Hmm, I've often been of the opinion that authors would get more money
that way for some things, especially software that isn't of mass appeal.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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 _Replying to a message_:

 By:  Stephen Thwaites <stephen@thwaity.freeserve.co.uk>
 To:  afb <afb@eGroups.com>
 On:  17-Feb-00 23:38:11
 Re:  [afb] IMHO

Hi Stephen,


> Can someone please please tell me what this means?

"In my humble opinion."  Though it's frequently used where the opinion
was anything but humbly stated.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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 _Replying to a message_:

 By:  Matthew J Fletcher <amimjf@hotmail.com>
 To:  afb <afb@eGroups.com>
 On:  18-Feb-00 19:58:35
 Re:  [afb] Copyrights

Hi Matthew,

> Common Sense is whats needed here,.. for example all the stuff on my
> website is copyright to me (its my work), and any copying of it is
> illigal, however i could prosecute everybody who views my site because
> they take several copys when they do so.
>
> - proxy cache,.. 1st copy
> - browser cache,.. 2nd copy
> - main memory cache,.. 3rd copy
> - graphcs memory,.. 4th copy
>
> - etc,..
>
> This plainly breaks my copyright on the info stored on my web page, i
> could sue for visiting my website !!

That rather depends on whether you interpret copyright as duplicating
for the sake of keeping a copy, and for the sake of depriving a person
of earning something for their work. 

Watching TV is copying a signal onto your CRT, but that's not a breach
of copyright.  Viewing a web site temporarily makes a cache copy, that's
how the technology works, it's unavoidable.  What about remembering the
contents of a book?

People seem to forget that the purpose copyright is to protect
intellectual property from someone else profiteering at your expense,
not to just blanket ban the copying of things for the sake of it.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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 _Replying to a message_:

 By:  Neil Bothwick <neil@wire.net.uk>
 To:  Tim Seifert <afb@egroups.com>
 On:  17-Feb-00 19:58:59
 Re:  [afb] Re: '' Zippity do da, Zippity Day

Hi Neil,

>>> But if the second disk does have an RDB (a different one) it will be
>>> mounted as a different device, with a different name. If the names
>>> clash, a number is appended to the second one.

>> You'd think that'd help, but it doesn't on my DKB Cobra accellerator
>> and Ferret SCSI host combination.  It sometimes does the Zip.2:
>> routine, sometimes doesn't.

> It sounds like the is the fault of your SCSI controller, since it
> works fine with other controllers.

I'm not surprised.  This controller also has another really annoying
problem.  It won't let the drive go to sleep.  The controller
continually polls the SCSI bus (I suppose that's there way of doing
diskchange handling for CD-ROMs), but it wakes up the Zip drive.  So
disks (and the drive) will wear out a hell of a lot quicker.

>> But even if it does, the Zip: is still accessible,
>> when it shouldn't be.  And behaves in a dangerous manner.

> I get the "No disk present in device ZIP:" type message, exactly as I
> should. ZIP: and ZIP.0: are treated as if they were separate physical
> devices, like DF0: and DF1:.

Unfortunately not here, well not consistently.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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Matt "succinct" Sealey wrote:

> > Does anyone know if you take a Hard Disk out of an A1200 and plug it
> > into an A4000 will everything work as before, or will all the software
> > have to be reinstalled ??  The two machines would both have 3.1 roms
> > and run OS3.5 .
> Probably.

I found that I didn't need to do anything :)
I installed the 2.5-3.5" convertor thing and booted up. It all worked. In
fact all my software worked 'cos it was from an 030 to an 030 as well.

l8r
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I watched as Sean FT hammered "[afb] 400MB oh dear?" out on their
keyboard...

>      Well the Ce-Bit started today and as usual all roads and telephone
> lines around Hannover were Gridlocked by 09:00Hrs this morning.Anyway
> Windows 2000 was what all the radio presenters were talking about from the
> show(can't understand why!)and the fact that it needs about 400MB harddisk
> space to install it?.

> What are Microsoft on Magic Mushrooms or what!"400MB" i know its for
> business,use but that really takes the p*ss.Can no one at Microsoft write
> software that is compact and well written,I take it they must have shares
> in the Harddrive industry!.

Nope.  This is MS we're talking about, they practically made bloatware the
industry standard.  The fact that they tried to create a shared library
system and failed miserably might have something to do with it...and they
have to keep adding to it.  To change it would pretty much make every
existing Windows program incompatible.

-- 
<sb>Rick Hodger - rick . thehub @ bigfoot . com
<sb>Anti Spam Sig - Remove the spaces
<sb>
<sb>My rules apply only to other people, not myself.

I watched as Daniel Thornton hammered "[afb] Re: Tutorial dearth" out on
their keyboard...

> On Thu, 24 Feb 2000 06:56:37 -0800, toffypops@hotmail.com wibbled...

>> Rebol Total Beginner to REbol Advanced....

> NO. PROGRAMMING. TUTORIALS.

It's not really programming, more like scripting :)

Anyway, REBOL isn't anywhere near as complicated as programming :)

-- 
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<sb>Anti Spam Sig - Remove the spaces
<sb>
<sb>The ultimate reason is "because."

I watched as Sealey, M. hammered "[afb] Re: 400MB oh dear?" out on their
keyboard...

>> show(can't understand why!)and the fact that it needs about 
>> 400MB harddisk space to install it?. What are Microsoft on
>> Magic Mushrooms or what!"400MB" i know its for business, use
>> but that really takes the p*ss.

> 400Mb is madness compared to what, then? Name me another OS
> on the PC that takes up less space that does the same amount
> of stuff.

It depends what you mean by "same amount of stuff" :)

> Besides, it's more like 600Mb when it's installed (400Mb in
> filesizes alone, but when you put it on disk NTFS sucks up
> a load of space for extended file attributes) and then
> you have your 150Mb of swap space, the 200Mb of journalling
> and backup filesystem data and redundancy and stuff.

Gods I hate NTFS...in fact, I just hate NT full stop.  The NT machine in
work hasn't had anything done to it in about 3 months (it acts as a web -
using IIS4 - and RealAudio server) except for the obligatory reboot once a
week...and it still appears to have completely buggered several things up
all by itself.  For example, the Java VM has stopped working for no
apparent reason, it refuses to play Shockwave files, the IIS Manager
refuses to work claiming it doesn't have access (yet the HTML version works
perfectly), one of the hard-disk partitions has write protected itself from
FTP access, it has on occasion "lost" the administrators password...need I
go on? :)

> This is an Amiga list anyway. And I could trounce you in any
> discussion on Windows 2000 so you can stop now ;)

Probably....I haven't used it yet, and hopefully will never have to ;)

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<sb>
<sb>Don't drink and drive - you might hit a bump and spill it.

> How many orders did they got so far for NighLong PPC? And for 68k?

The PPC version currently stands at 131 preorders (updated tuesday).

Which at $75 canadian dollars is a fair amount of mular.  But is it
enough to cove the developement and 3 CDs per customer???  

hmm.

No mention of non-ppc amounts though.

Bifford the Youngest.
 

> > Most stuff doesnt require that much harddisk space. you can pick up
New
> > 2Gb HD for around 80 pounds.  Second hand they should be even
cheaper.
> 
> I don't know where you shop, but if you're paying 80 quid for a hard 
> drive you should be expecting about 8GB for your money. Can you 
> even buy 2GB hard drives anymore? :)
>

 Hi Gerry,

um, ok, I may have miss typed that.  I was at uni without a Miggy mag
to hand and was going off the top of me `ead.  My 2.1Gb was 80 pounds
when I bought it 2 years ago.  but the 8Gb thing rings a bell for that
80 now.

Missinformation is the best way to make your friends and enemies
paranoid.

Bifford the youngest.

Hi Matt,

> > > If you use FBlit, then it doesn't really matter ;)
 
> > Well I don't, it makes my Amiga too unstable.
 
> I think you'll find it's the OTHER conflicting patches, and
> the lack of proper configuration makes your Amiga unstable.

> It works fine on my machine, which is - as usual - solid
> as a rock.

Enter Dr. Sealey; "Now, whats seems to be the throuble?" ;)

Paul Laycock

Hi ppl,

One of my work collegues just showed the office the "new" Narration
facility of Windows 2000. All were amazed, except for me, who heard the
same thing 10 years ago with "Say". Plus, it doesn't sound much better!

Paul Laycock

Does anyone have definative information as to what is happening with
phase5 accelerators sent back for repair? I am currently not able to
use my Amiga as all programs I have are optimised for either 060 or
PPC. :( I have to make do with this stupid win98 laptop. Not to mention
the fact that I can't use my 64Mb of fast ram as it is all in the form
of SIMMs on the accelerator.

I would appreciate it very much (as I'm sure would all Amiga Format
readers in the same boat) if someone with some clout (hint hint, Ben
Vost) or even someone over there in Europe (hint hint, etc) could let
us know what is happening.

I'm sure most people on this list would not want to go through the pain
of dealing with Windows programs (at least someone could try doing a
decent IRC program for this box). :(

Hi
>>> Most stuff doesnt require that much harddisk space. you can pick up
> New
>>> 2Gb HD for around 80 pounds.  Second hand they should be even
> cheaper.
Hmmmmm. I have a 2.5Gb HD and it's almost full. 
>> I don't know where you shop, but if you're paying 80 quid for a hard 
>> drive you should be expecting about 8GB for your money. Can you 
>> even buy 2GB hard drives anymore? :)
I'm about to byu a Quantum Fireball 15Gb 7600rpm for 100pounds
> um, ok, I may have miss typed that.  I was at uni without a Miggy mag
> to hand and was going off the top of me `ead.  My 2.1Gb was 80 pounds
> when I bought it 2 years ago.  but the 8Gb thing rings a bell for that
> 80 now.
HD's are geting cheaper and cheaper
> Missinformation is the best way to make your friends and enemies
> paranoid.
Do NOT buy hd's from Amiga dealers!You save a LOT of
money when you buy from PC ones
         Bye bYe byE BYe ByE bYE
-- 
Amiga RULEZ in Greece TOO!!

Andy Mills wrote:
> 
> It's the way you lay out your code that can
> cause problems, e.g.;
> 
>  <TR>
>   <TD>
>    <IMG SRCe"piccy.jpg">
>   </TD>
>  </TR>
> 
> Will cause the gaps in NN and Aweb, etc. But, by laying out in the
> following way, won't;
> 
>  <TR>
>   <TD><IMG SRC="piccy.jpg"></TD>
>  </TR>

It is only the closing bracket that makes the difference - either

 <TD>
  <A...</A></TD>

or 

 <TD>
  <A...</A><BR>
 </TD>

work with no gaps.  Without thinking (I must have encountered this a
while ago) I used the latter in my example - try removing the <BR> at
the end of line 18...

- Chris

> Hi ppl,
> 
> One of my work collegues just showed the office the "new" Narration
> facility of Windows 2000. All were amazed, except for me, who 
> heard the same thing 10 years ago with "Say". Plus, it doesn't sound 
> much better!

So what?

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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

On Fri, Feb 25, 2000 at 05:10:14AM -0800, Eric Fillisch wrote:

> Does anyone have definative information as to what is happening with
> phase5 accelerators sent back for repair? I am currently not able to
> use my Amiga as all programs I have are optimised for either 060 or
> PPC. :( I have to make do with this stupid win98 laptop. Not to mention
> the fact that I can't use my 64Mb of fast ram as it is all in the form
> of SIMMs on the accelerator.

Have a look at the DCE website. They are now doing repairs on Phase5 kit.
The address is http://www.dcecom.de

> I would appreciate it very much (as I'm sure would all Amiga Format
> readers in the same boat) if someone with some clout (hint hint, Ben
> Vost) or even someone over there in Europe (hint hint, etc) could let
> us know what is happening.

"or someone in Europe" - Ben is in Europe last time we checked :)

l8r
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Christopher Ross-Gill wrote:
> 
> It is only the closing bracket that makes the difference - either

Bracket?  Surely that should be tag.

- Chris

Hi
HDs are getting cheaper and cheaper.DON'T BE FOOLED!!!
DON"T BYE ANY HD SMALLER THAN 4.3 GB FOR MORE
THAN 40POUNDS!!!Right now you can get a 15Gb hd for
100 pounds.Every single week the HDs get cheaper.
last week you could get a 12Gb the same price
Cheers
-- 
Amiga RULEZ in Greece TOO!!

REad this...

http://www.amiga-news.de/archiv/0039.shtml

Specially the last paragraphs..

B=E5rd



> Does anyone have definative information as to what is happening with
> phase5 accelerators sent back for repair? I am currently not able to
> use my Amiga as all programs I have are optimised for either 060 or
> PPC. :( I have to make do with this stupid win98 laptop. Not to
mention
> the fact that I can't use my 64Mb of fast ram as it is all in the form
> of SIMMs on the accelerator.
> 
> I would appreciate it very much (as I'm sure would all Amiga Format
> readers in the same boat) if someone with some clout (hint hint, Ben
> Vost) or even someone over there in Europe (hint hint, etc) could let
> us know what is happening.
> 
> I'm sure most people on this list would not want to go through the
pain
> of dealing with Windows programs (at least someone could try doing a
> decent IRC program for this box). :(
> 

> Hi
> HDs are getting cheaper and cheaper.DON'T BE FOOLED!!!
> DON"T BYE ANY HD SMALLER THAN 4.3 GB FOR MORE
> THAN 40POUNDS!!!Right now you can get a 15Gb hd for
> 100 pounds.Every single week the HDs get cheaper.
> last week you could get a 12Gb the same price

Alex, you're in Greece, and nobody else is. Stuff just
isn't as cheap over here because it costs more to
import.

I'd be perfectly happy to pay =A350 for a 4.3Gb drive,
'cos that's how much I can find them for QUICKLY. I'm
sure I could find a 6Gb drive for the same, but who
cares? What do I do with that extra 2Gb? Nothing.

It just goes to waste, and the drive will die before
I ever get enough data to store on it. This isn't a
PC, it's an Amiga, and they don't take up much space

(so says I, owning a 4.3Gb drive with only 600Mb of
data on it)

--=20
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk=20
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

If the drive is a small drive (2.5") that fits inside the A1200 then
you will need an IDE adaptor from Eyetech for it to work on the A4000.


"d race" <duncanrac-@hotmail.com> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=48927
> Does anyone know if you take a Hard Disk out of an A1200 and plug it
> into an A4000 will everything work as before, or will all the software
> have to be reinstalled ??  The two machines would both have 3.1 roms
> and run OS3.5 .
> 
> Many Thanks
> Duncan
> 

Hi
> I'd be perfectly happy to pay 50 for a 4.3Gb drive,
> 'cos that's how much I can find them for QUICKLY. I'm
> sure I could find a 6Gb drive for the same, but who
> cares? What do I do with that extra 2Gb? Nothing.
I found it QUICKLY too i don't need to search to
find a cheap HD.I can get them from anywhere.
OK the main reason for this BIG difference in price is
the import cost as you mentioned.But if I were you I
would order my HD from another country. 
> It just goes to waste, and the drive will die before
> I ever get enough data to store on it. This isn't a
> PC, it's an Amiga, and they don't take up much space
Hehe.this depends on who the owner is;)
> (so says I, owning a 4.3Gb drive with only 600Mb of
> data on it)
I own a 2.5Gb hd and I've got only 100mb free.
almost the 1gb of the data in it is downloads.And
I want to install Linux APUS,MacOS,and PCX.
I deleted those due to space reasons
     Bye
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<html>Can anyone help me...?
<BR>
Now that Phase 5's servers are off-line, where can I get a copy of the
cgxsystem.library 41.21beta1 file? I need it to run WipeOut...
<BR>
thanx
<BR>
Si
<BR>

<a href = "http://hey.to/rathenn">http://hey.to/rathenn</a><BR>
</html>

Hi Matt,

<snip>
> I'd be perfectly happy to pay =A350 for a 4.3Gb drive,
> 'cos that's how much I can find them for QUICKLY. I'm
> sure I could find a 6Gb drive for the same, but who
> cares? What do I do with that extra 2Gb? Nothing.
> 

Wouldnt we all like to pay that!

> It just goes to waste, and the drive will die before
> I ever get enough data to store on it. This isn't a
> PC, it's an Amiga, and they don't take up much space
> 

Wanna bet?
You`ve obviously never tried filling it with mp3s or wavs!

> (so says I, owning a 4.3Gb drive with only 600Mb of
> data on it)


2.1Gb, 3/4 full.  My workbench, 3.5, net particians are half full, my
games and work ones almost completley full.  So unless I use a hell of
a lot of zip disks, make backups and then reformat Im up the preverbial
creek without a holographic paddle.   Or i tag another hd onto
thesystem - but that means i have to drop the second cd drive from the
chain. Dammit. I want more than 4 ide drives!!

:}

Bifford the Youngest.

Hi Alex,

Can i suggest something about your mails please,  could you put some
spaces between your quoted text and your own reply?  

Its just that it makes finding what is the new writting a lot easier :)
 and im all for not having to work too hard decipering mails! :)

Cheers m8, and please take this as friendly advice, not critism!

Bifford the Youngest.

> Hi
> > I'd be perfectly happy to pay =A350 for a 4.3Gb drive,
> > 'cos that's how much I can find them for QUICKLY. I'm
> > sure I could find a 6Gb drive for the same, but who
> > cares? What do I do with that extra 2Gb? Nothing.
>
> I found it QUICKLY too i don't need to search to
> find a cheap HD.I can get them from anywhere.
> OK the main reason for this BIG difference in price is
> the import cost as you mentioned.But if I were you I
> would order my HD from another country.=20

Don't be stupid, that's cost more than buying it from
THIS country.

> > It just goes to waste, and the drive will die before
> > I ever get enough data to store on it. This isn't a
> > PC, it's an Amiga, and they don't take up much space
>
> Hehe.this depends on who the owner is;)

Hmm.. OS3.5 install is 20Mb, my Workbench partition is
still only 45Mb with loads of truetype fonts installed,
I have 450Mb of data backed up from my old hard drive,
and a the rest is networking apps, source code, StormC
and PPaint, plus a few others.

I download quite a bit of stuff, but I purge it once
a week (list all files before Saturday to t:del.tmp lformat "delete =
%n")
so it keeps down.

I guess you just have to care..

--=20
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk=20
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

> Can anyone help me...? 
> Now that Phase 5's servers are off-line, where can
> I get a copy of the cgxsystem.library 41.21beta1 
> file? I need it to run WipeOut... 

Easy peasy: go and buy CyberGraphX 4 on CD, and
install the latest 4.2prerelease update. You'll
get a much faster, more stable system out of it
and Warp3D applications will run flawlessly..

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

your right!

Installed With 68EC020 33Mhz CPU (No MMU) 
Socket For FPU (PGA Style 33Mhz Only) 
2 x IDE 40 Pin Sockets For Hard Disk/CDROM 
1 x IDE 44 Pin Socket For 2.5" Internal Hard Disk 
Mounting Space On-Board For 2.5" Hard Disk Drive 
Fitted With 8 Mb of Fast Ram On-Board 
Installed with Kickstart 3.0 AmigaOS Roms 
Fat Agnus Slot for connecting Mini Megi Chip 

matthew garrett <mjg5-@cam.ac.uk> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=48800
> On Wed, Feb 23, 2000 at 11:58:52AM -0800, Erol Ismael wrote:
> > matthew garrett <mjg5-@cam.ac.uk> wrote: 
> > 
> > > The 520 is a 68020, isn't it?
> > 
> > It is a 030 processor 
> 
> Power's site says that it's a 68020...
> 
> -- 
> Matthew Garrett | mjg59@cam.ac.uk

> I download quite a bit of stuff, but I purge it once
> a week (list all files before Saturday to t:del.tmp lformat "delete
%n")
> so it keeps down.
> 
> I guess you just have to care..


Hi matt,

personally I have a "Download" Dir (Assigned) that EVERYTHING I
download, doesnt matter if I know i want to keep it or not, goes into. 
This, as you do with your set-up, gets "purged" every now and again
(usually when there`s too amny icons to fit in the half-screen window!).

But your right (wow!), you do need to keep things to a minimum,
otherwise you end up with just soooo much c*** its unbelievable.  :(

TTFN :)

Bifford the Youngest.

"sealey, m." <mws-@leicester.ac.uk> wrote: 
> > You haven't been on this list for ages,where have you been?
> 
> Busyland.
My spies reported that you where on amiga-c a while back..?

-matthew 

> "sealey, m." <mws-@leicester.ac.uk> wrote: 
> > > You haven't been on this list for ages,where have you been?
> > 
> > Busyland.
>
> My spies reported that you where on amiga-c a while back..?

Busyland is closer to the amiga-c mailing list (and Voyager one ;)
than it is to AFB. The noise-to-signal is better over there, too.

-- 
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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

On 20-Feb-00, Ben Chapman wrote:

> I loved Hired Guns too.....I think one of my fave Amiga games ever has to
> be BattleTech though.... fantastic game, i left my A500 on for a week
> solid playing that..... :)

Yeah..I had that on the Atari.It was great too.
Did you ever put a book on the mouse button,and leave it running into a wall
for hours,in the city where you start,to build up a huge amount of cash?
Ah..fond memories :).

Hired guns was/is much better,though,cause you can play a kind of deathmatch
with four people.Brilliant :D

Bye.
-- 
<sb>Geo

Hello again

 Yesterday I tried to backup my smaller partitions using Make CD onto
my nice
shiny new CDR but ive hit a few problems.

 1. I cant write from a ISO image. The buffer fills and the CDR starts
writting everything is fine for a few minutes then the buffer zipps
empty and
make cd yells at me. 

 2. I can write direct from my IDE HD but although the 20MB buffer
never drops
below ~ 98% full it will only write at 1X. I have set MakeCD to write
as fast
as possible however it keeps doing this.

 3. Im having problems with mounting the drive through
Blizzardpcc.device. In
the boards BIOS I set the scsi unit 3 (This is the one with the device
on) to
mount as a cd with device name CDW and set the data mode as synchronous.
However it keeps defaulting to a CR0 and 40 buffers no matter how i
change the
settings.

Annoyed
Chris Bayliss

http://www.onlyamiga.freeserve.co.uk/power5000.html

what ever happened to the A5000?

> http://www.onlyamiga.freeserve.co.uk/power5000.html
> 
> what ever happened to the A5000?

It died, it died.. but you have the infinitely superior
BoXeR going through the first stages of power-up this
week, and proper Amiga testing in the next month. It's
getting closer, I can almost smell the silicon ;)

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

Hello Simon Cooper, on 25-Feb-00 14:18:02 you said about:
  [afb] CGX 3 

><html>Can anyone help me...?
><BR>
>Now that Phase 5's servers are off-line, where can I get a copy of the
>cgxsystem.library 41.21beta1 file? I need it to run WipeOut...

If no one else has done so yet, give me a shout in private mail and I'll
send it to you...

-- 
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 South West Amiga Group - http://www.swag.org.uk
 afb-ot's official webshite - http://www.afb-ot.co.uk
--
I either want less corruption, or a chance to get in on it.

On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, Sealey, M. wrote:

> > Can anyone help me...? 
> > Now that Phase 5's servers are off-line, where can
> > I get a copy of the cgxsystem.library 41.21beta1 
> > file? I need it to run WipeOut... 
> 
> Easy peasy: go and buy CyberGraphX 4 on CD, and
> install the latest 4.2prerelease update. You'll
> get a much faster, more stable system out of it
> and Warp3D applications will run flawlessly..

dont bother Matt.... I'm *always* telling people to get CGX4 as it
solves so many problems (and is faster!) but they often reply with 
ill-thought-out sentiments and swearing. Whats the matter with these
people..dont they want to get the most out of their expensive
hardware? 

alan

> On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, Sealey, M. wrote:
>=20
> > > I get a copy of the cgxsystem.library 41.21beta1=20
> > > file?
> >=20
> > Easy peasy: go and buy CyberGraphX 4 on CD [snip]
>=20
> dont bother Matt.... I'm *always* telling people to
> get CGX4 as it solves so many problems (and is faster!)
> but they often reply with ill-thought-out sentiments
> and swearing. Whats the matter with these people.. dont
> they want to get the most out of their expensive
> hardware?=20

Leave it out, Alan! That was just uncalled for. I'm=20
offering advice, and you're sh*tting on them for no
reason!

We'll see what Simon says first, and if he DOES swear
(which I doubt) then you can launch your anti-personnel
missiles at will. Until then:

Simon, I recommend you just bite the bullet and get
CGX 4.2 - there really is no reason to stay with CGX 3
anymore especially now that it's never ever going to
be updated ever again, and that it's as unstable as
hell (yes it is!)

WipeOut is one hell of a lot faster with CGX 4 than
it is with 3. And it may solve many a problem with
your system that you'd never have noticed that
causes a lot of trouble.

=A335-odd isn't too much to ask, is it? I'm sure Frank
Mariak will love you to death ;)

--=20
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk=20
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

On Fri, Feb 25, 2000 at 02:58:13PM -0000, Sealey, M. wrote:

> getting closer, I can almost smell the silicon ;)

If you can smell the silicon, then the "power-up" obviously highlighted
another problem :)

I just want to hear when a "real" person - such as yourself gets one and can
test it out with everyday apps to see how it reacts - I won't get one until
someone has gfx/sound card drivers done personally...

l8r
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                                     Technology in Perfect Harmony
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> On Fri, Feb 25, 2000 at 02:58:13PM -0000, Sealey, M. wrote:
> 
> > getting closer, I can almost smell the silicon ;)
> 
> If you can smell the silicon, then the "power-up" obviously 
> highlighted another problem :)
> 
> I just want to hear when a "real" person - such as yourself 

LOL! What makes you think I'm even real? :)

*** Bzzt! Error, advanced AI systems failed. Flame retention
deactivated!!!

> gets one and can test it out with everyday apps to see how
> it reacts - I won't get one until someone has gfx/sound card
> drivers done personally...

But then you have about 100 kick-ass Amiga setups: for us
lowly scumsucking A1200 users without PPCs, we need the BoXeR!!

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

On Fri, Feb 25, 2000 at 04:02:55PM -0000, Sealey, M. wrote:

> LOL! What makes you think I'm even real? :)

No-one would pretend to be like you are - LOL :)

> But then you have about 100 kick-ass Amiga setups: for us
> lowly scumsucking A1200 users without PPCs, we need the BoXeR!!

I don't have PPC - yet!

Might get the AmiJoe 4K though - that sounds like a nice card (on the
grounds that waiting for a Phase5/???? G3/G4 may take some time)

l8r
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> On Fri, Feb 25, 2000 at 04:02:55PM -0000, Sealey, M. wrote:
> 
> > LOL! What makes you think I'm even real? :)
> 
> No-one would pretend to be like you are - LOL :)

heh heh.. huh?
 
> > But then you have about 100 kick-ass Amiga setups: for us
> > lowly scumsucking A1200 users without PPCs, we need the BoXeR!!
> 
> I don't have PPC - yet!

If you're an A1200 owner, with a PPC, you almost certainly have
a machine with a 68040 processor *AND* higher. Future proofed,
almost. Lucky Amigans will have an A1200 almost as powerful as
an iMac (and at only 4x the cost!!!)

With A4000s and A3000s, you have the best Amigas out, high
end neatness out of the box, and probably filled with all
kinds of juicy meaty cardage!

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Computer Centre
University of Leicester

Has anyone seen the link from ANN from Ateo.

Check out http://www.ateo-concepts.com/amiga/eframe.html

What do they know that no-one else does?
Or does anyone know anymore? Ben?

l8r
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Series 5 OK?=

On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, Sealey, M. wrote:

> Leave it out, Alan! That was just uncalled for. I'm=20
> offering advice, and you're sh*tting on them for no
> reason!

?? I'm saying the ones who reply back negatively are the
ones with the problem...and dont worry, they do number
amongst the 60% of BVision owners
=20
> Simon, I recommend you just bite the bullet and get
> CGX 4.2 - there really is no reason to stay with CGX 3
> anymore especially now that it's never ever going to
> be updated ever again, and that it's as unstable as
> hell (yes it is!)
>=20
> WipeOut is one hell of a lot faster with CGX 4 than
> it is with 3. And it may solve many a problem with
> your system that you'd never have noticed that
> causes a lot of trouble.
>=20
> =A335-odd isn't too much to ask, is it? I'm sure Frank
> Mariak will love you to death ;)

Its a lot cheaper than that - buy direct from Schatztruhe.

=2E.lets see if our continual recommendation WILL get people
to finally give up on the dying corpse of CGX3

alan

Hi Alan,

> > =A335-odd isn't too much to ask, is it? I'm sure Frank
> > Mariak will love you to death ;)

> Its a lot cheaper than that - buy direct from Schatztruhe.

> ..lets see if our continual recommendation WILL get people
> to finally give up on the dying corpse of CGX3

Don't you worry Alan! As soon as my BVision arrives, I'll be straight
on the phone to order myself a copy of CyberGFX 4.

Remember people: we may have a hardware market, but the software market
is slowly dwindling. For those with CGX3, buy V4 now, before it is too
late!

Paul Laycock

Hi M.

On 25-Feb-00, you wrote:

=>>> Which QNX GUI? If your desktop is the one on Aminet now, 
=>>> then that's just a mockup shot created in Photoshop. 
=>> 
=>> Yeah, that was my mk1 version. Its evolved a bit now. Much 
=>> better. Do you mean MY grab on Aminet is a mockup (it isn't)
=>> or the gui I based it on?
=> 
=> The GUI it was based on. Photoshop, beleive me ;)

It doesn't stop it being pretty, tho'  ;o)

=>> I've seen it. I prefered the original design. The new one's gadgets
=>> are  crap. (IMHO, of course!).
=> 
=> What? How can you see them in such tiny screengrabs? :)

I have very good eyes! 8)

=>> => Anyone want me to make a VP theme for the *new* Photon?
=>> 
=>> If you like. But as I said, I don't like it as much. Are we 
=>> starting a "design a VP theme based on QSSL's latest whim"
=>> competition????
=> 
=> QSSL's "latest whim" is how it looks full stop. It never ever
=> looked like the "mockup" in production, that shot was made up
=> practically MONTHS before we ever saw it. In fact, I seem to
=> beleive that Ben had seen the shot about 6 months before at a
=> show or something?

Vapour, vapour everywhere...

Vaughn

/*Thank You Kevin Fairhurst For Your Email Dated 24-Feb-00*/
 
>> Has anything odd been happening?
> 
> Well my testicles were having a conversation last night on the merits of
> Boyzone, until I realised they were talking bol.. whoops, family show!

That's definately strange!! I'll have to call in Mulder and Scully on this!
Mine generally don't say much, how about the rest of you? ;-)

Anyway, I think that's enough Testicle talk for one day!  
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Hi Ben
Was the 7.1 bugfix for WW7 ever put on a AFCD?
Tony.
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I watched as Matthew Garrett hammered "[afb] Re: PCMCIA network
cards/CC_reset question." out on their keyboard...

> On Thu, Feb 24, 2000 at 08:06:54PM +0000, Alan L.M. Buxey wrote:

>> you want t use RJ-45 - its the best. as for CCReset...what'll happen
>> wihout it done? Well, the card will work when you boot up your
>> machine..but wont work if you warm reboot

> You don't necessarily want to use RJ 45 (I don't) - 10Base2 is easier to
> manage if you have a large number of machines in a single room and avoids
> the need for a hub.

Nooo...you really don't want to do that.  Large networks should use RJ45,
simply because if one lead between a machine and the hub breaks, just that
machine is affected.  On 10Base2, if a lead breaks *anywhere* the entire
network goes down.  Baaad.  10Base2 should only be used for small networks,
no more than 10 machines at the most I'd say.

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<sb>
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I watched as Sealey, M. hammered "[afb] Re: A question for the Mac
fraternity..." out on their keyboard...

>> On Thu, Feb 24, 2000 at 05:52:45PM -0000, Sealey, M. wrote:
>> 
>>> With Internet Explorer 5 coming out soon for the Mac, it looks to
>>> be the fastest, and most 100% compliant (yes, you read it right!)
>>> internet platform in existance. End of March I think they're saying,
>>> and until then you can be using the far-superior IE4.5 instead of
>>> lame old Nutscrape.
>> 
>> How can something be more 100% compliant than something else? :-)

> Easy. Mozilla says it'll be 100% compliant, but it fails quite a few
> compliance tests. Opera is supposed to be working towards 100% compliance,
> too, but it doesn't.

> But IE5 really trounces them by being 100% STANDARDS compliant, and
> also 100% compliant with Microsoft's extensions *too*.

> 200% compliant, then :)

...except for the Java VM that comes with it, I'm told by a friend that it
*still* has that nasty DLL support that MS added in, thereby defeating the
entire purpose of Java in the first place.

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<sb>
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Hello peeps, Oliver Roberts in particular,

If I stop AFCDfind using the "Stop" button before it has finished
searching but it hasn't found any matches, it appears to hang as if
trying to open the amigaguide file but can't find it.

Obviously the normal thing to do would be to click cancel, but it
would be nice if Stop had the same effect.

Or is it just me?  I'll give more info if neccessary but I can't think
of much relevant at the mo.

Ta,
Paul C, on line 4
-- 

Hi Ben/All
I wrote

> Hi Ben
> Was the 7.1 bugfix for WW7 ever put on a AFCD?
> Tony.
> -- 

I just checked AFCDfind (which is what i should have done,i know) and
no matching files were found.Can anyone help.It is no longer available
from Aminet  :-(
Tony







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Hello M.

On 25-Feb-00, you wrote:


>>> Easy peasy: go and buy CyberGraphX 4 on CD [snip]

I agree totaly!



> =A335-odd isn't too much to ask, is it? I'm sure Frank
> Mariak will love you to death ;)

Are you saying CyberGraphX 4 costs =A335 in England? =


              Cheers,
                    Sean.
                             POWERED BY:      =


A4000(T) 040 25+PPC233 144Mb CVPPC PreludeZII+Rombler* IOBlixZII
UltraPlex32X RicohMP6200SCDRW Nomai750.c Mustek1200SP Tiptel506 ISDN Mode=
m
EpsonSC500 OS3.5 =

Opus Magellan II etc

*=3DStill looking for a sound daughter board DB50XG from Yamaha to fit on=
to
it! (Any offers!)




Always remember that you are unique.  Just like everyone else.

On 3 Jan 78 21:21:50 +0000, Tony (far@ukonline.co.uk) wrote:

> > Was the 7.1 bugfix for WW7 ever put on a AFCD?
> 
> I just checked AFCDfind (which is what i should have done,i know) and
> no matching files were found.Can anyone help.It is no longer available
> from Aminet  :-(

Go to http://kickstart.amiga.tm (I think) cos they've got the support files
for it now ...

Kev

-- 
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Mash wrote:

> Just in case you hadn't noticed, this is a mailing list with lots of poeple
> on it where anyone can reply to any message and indeed is meant to, if
> you're so stuck up that you dont want anyone else replying why dont you do
> it through private mail, that way no-one can disturb you.
>
> Ben I'm starting to get sick of this. I'm on this list because I like being
> here and I like most of the poeple. I know that several people didn't like
> the comment that I posted and I've apologised for it. But a select few had
> decided to have a go at me in every way possible in every mail they post. I
> dont want to leave the list because I have made lots of friends here &
> enjoy helping everyone.

Surprisingly enough, I'm with Mash on this one. I've been following this
thread, and it does seem that some folk are trying to find fault just
because it's Mash that they're replying to.

For the record, I've never received one of these fabled moderator messages
either. I *know* that a few of my mails have been over the daily limit
through a combination of the number downloaded, and the fact that my mails
have failed to appear by the following evening. It would appear that these
moderator messages don't get sent to everyone, eh?

Yes, Mash's comment was ill-advised, and very likely to cause offence to
some people. I think he's probably well aware of that by now. If you don't
like what he has to say then filter his messages. You'll miss some
well-informed comments that way, though.

Regards,
Jonny (trying not to be an arsehole).

> On 3 Jan 78 21:21:50 +0000, Tony (far@ukonline.co.uk) wrote
> 
> > > Was the 7.1 bugfix for WW7 ever put on a AFCD?
> > 
> > I just checked AFCDfind (which is what i should have done,i know) and
> > no matching files were found.Can anyone help.It is no longer available
> > from Aminet  :-(
> 
> Go to http://kickstart.amiga.tm (I think) cos they've got the support files
> for it now ...
> 
> Kev
 

Cheers Kev i'll check it out ;-) 
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Hi all

> > HTTP://www.mashman.co.uk
>
> It doesn't work - you've got your frameset tag in your body tag.

Sorry - that was meant to go privately :-/

Lovely job
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July.

"night65" <night6-@adlink.com.au> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=49131
> Hi,
> 
> Im an old amiga user from way back, (you know the A500 days when
everyone
> when out a brought 1MB exp Boards!!)
I still got one of those ;-)

> Ive still got my A500, but i guess it wont be much use...I can I get
> away using winUAE for now (ive got a PIII550 so it should run oK) or
should
> i try and get hold of an A1200 or something, if i get a A1200 what
should i
> look 4??.

Suggest you look into buying a second hand A4000 setup rather than
A1200.
Look at HTTP://amibench.org for a great deal for very little money :-)

> P.S- As for the "400MB oh dear" message last week, On my machine
Win98 SE is
> using 429MB!! (I have ALOT of software installed though.)

Myself Im useing 2GB of storage on my PC and it still cannot do what I
want.
My humble 100mb amiga sails through it 8-)

Matthew O'Neill said, 

>> The first two letters of this list's name refer to a magazine. Try
>> reading it sometime :)

> I have all your wonderful tutes sitting on the shelf next to me, carefully
> cut out and bound together with my own fair hands, theres nout about where
> those tags go

Are you saying my slightly sarcastic response was uncalled for? :)

An HTML document can contain either frames or "content" (for want of a
better description). Frames are defined in the FRAMESET tag, content
is defined in the BODY tag. Since you can't have frames and content at
the same time, you can have both BODY and FRAMESET tags. All the content
of a framed page is contained in separate documents that are loaded into
the frames.

The only apparent exception to this is including BODY within NOFRAMES.
If the NOFRAMES content is shown, then the FRAMESET tag is ignored, the
document is no longer a framed page, so the above statements still hold
true.

The three possible constructs are

<HTML>
<HEAD>...</HEAD>
<BODY>...</BODY>
</HTML>

<HTML>
<HEAD>...</HEAD>
<FRAMESET>...</FRAMESET>
</HTML>

<HTML>
<HEAD>...</HEAD>
<FRAMESET>...
<NOFRAMES>
<BODY>...</BODY>
</NOFRAMES>
</FRAMESET>
</HTML>


Neil
-- 
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The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
http://www.wire.net.uk
-- 
Death is a nonmaskable interrupt.

Erol Ismael said, 

> Does anyone know why Blittesoft's web site is down?

It's working from here, and was yesterday too.


Neil
-- 
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The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
http://www.wire.net.uk
-- 
Just when my ship comes in, it's the Kobyashi Maru.

Mad Matt said, 

> Has anybody been able to get the latest version of fusion68k.  I have
> been trying to download it from many amiga news sites with no luck.

No news sites should have it available fro download, only a link to
Blittersoft's site. It's a paid upgrade, a tenner, not a free download.


Neil
-- 
Neil Bothwick - Connected via Wirenet
The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
http://www.wire.net.uk
-- 
"Bother," said Pooh, as the pin fell out of the grenade.

Matthew O'Neill said, 

> Hi Neil

>> Where does prejudice come into it? If you have a question about a
>> product, you ask on that product's mailing list, not another list. I
>> would expect to get help with YAM on the THOR list, or Voyager on the
>> IBrowse list.

> What he was saying had nothing to do with the mag, he just said where it
> came from.

Well, the question related to the content of an article in the mag. As
I've said many times before, I'd rather not discuss it in here.

> I think that the TAO guy looks like Alexi Sayle, but just
> because I first saw his picture in AA doesn't mean I'm not allowed to
> discuss it here does it?

It's fine to discuss that, because you're wrong :)

Francis Charig looks nothing like Alexi Sayle. He did look rather like
an East End Gangster when we met him in Reading...


Neil
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http://www.wire.net.uk
-- 
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On Sun, 27 Feb 2000 08:16:42 -0800, Mad Matt (matt_madmatt@hotmail.com) wrote:
> Has anybody been able to get the latest version of fusion68k.  I have
> been trying to download it from many amiga news sites with no luck.
> 
> If you have been lucky, would you mind e-mailing it to me please?

Erm, you have to BUY it.  Yes, it's mainly a bug-fix release but you have
to pay for it ...

Kev

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"Jonathan M. Dudley" wrote:
> 
> Arran wrote:
> 
> > Any Reply will be OT but... Quake 3 is really smooth on the G4 but
> > Unreal is more fun...
> 
> G4? You jammy git.  :)
> Beige G3 with Voodoo3 here...
> 
Jammy, Perhaps, Skint, Definitely:)

I say Viva Amiga and other OS's that don't need 24M RAM to themselves!

Does anyone know if the new (being produced) Amiga OS will be compatable
with mac Hardware? After all, a Mac G4 shouldn't be that different from
an IBM POP machine with a G4 processor. Here's hoping.

Arran

Hi All
Epic has sent me a new flyer.They've got Pagestream 2 for sale for a
tenner.Is it worth buying?I would love vers 4 but a tad to expensive
for me right now.
Tony

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Someone around here has been mumbling again. Apparently they go
by the name of Oliver Roberts.

> > What made you ask about the "About" requester?
 
> Simply because the "About" requester and the "no matches" requester
> are displayed using the exact same code in AFCDFind.  I would have
> thought that the "About" requester would have crashed too

I thought you might say that, but as it doesn't I wasn't sure.

> - it's weird that it doesn't.  Must be a bug in MCP's requester patches
> somewhere.

Looks like it :(

> Oliver Roberts

Paul C, 
-- 
... "There are two ways of constructing a software design:
    One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies,
    and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious
    deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult"
    --C.A.R. Hoare

Hello Gerald

On 27-Feb-00, you wrote:


> Anyway, in the process of mucking about inside my Amiga I seem to have
> fried my 3.1 ROM chips, either through poor antistatic precautions or
> by some other method, I don't know. So I'm back to using 3.0 :-(
> Luckily I hadn't updated too much to take advantage of OS3.5 yet, a
> few icons was really all...

So quickly i doubt it,i have been mucking about in my Amigas for years and
have 
never had problems with the Kickstart chips.Are you sure it was not caused
by
something else,a short circuit from the casing or some small swarf on the
Motherboard?.
            Sean


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I like work ... I can sit and watch it for hours.

Hey All,

*Intro*
A week ago my brother was given an A2000 complete with monitor, diskdrive=
s, loads of disks, harddisks, some other bits and an CBM Bridgeboard (I b=
elieve its a 386 one). This weekend I took a look at the stuff and it was=
 all in good shape (even the original A2000 manuals were there). =


Now he has this set-up, he wants to know how the Bridgboard performs but =
he is facing a problem because the neccasary software (Janus?) was not pr=
ovided. I know he should not be bothering to get a 386 working but as the=
 board is there we'd like to see it working. =


*Question*
Is there anyway we can track down this software since calling CBM would n=
ot do any good, would it?

Thanks.

That's it, that's that.
-- =

Bert Volders

bert@volders.demon.nl
<sb>
Tag of the day:
Reality is for people who lack imagination.

"neil bothwick" <nei-@wire.net.uk> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=49119
 
> > Then again, maybe I'm being too sensitive...
> 
> You are. I wrote that article and I'm more than happy to discuss it's
> contents. But it would be discourteous to Ben to discuss it on here.
And
> repetitious to subscribers to both lists to read the same discussion
> again.
> 

And there was me thinking that this was an open forum for amiga users.
What a fool. Not to worry, I believe this is a misunderstanding between
standards of social behaviour in the 'real world' and the world of the
list.

As an editor for the aforementioned un-nameable magazine, perhaps you
can tell me how to get on to the relevant list. Please don't point me
to the website, it doesn't help. Assume I'm a thick, over-sensitive
idiot and explain it to me in words of one syllable. And no smileys, I
don't understand them either.

Regards, Phil

Hi Sean,

>> Anyway, in the process of mucking about inside my Amiga I seem to
>> have fried my 3.1 ROM chips, either through poor antistatic
>> precautions or by some other method, I don't know. So I'm back to
>> using 3.0 :-( Luckily I hadn't updated too much to take advantage
>> of OS3.5 yet, a few icons was really all...
> 
> So quickly i doubt it,i have been mucking about in my Amigas for
> years and have
> never had problems with the Kickstart chips.Are you sure it was not
> caused by
> something else,a short circuit from the casing or some small swarf
> on the Motherboard?.

It's possible anything could have caused it. I've been playing around
inside my Amiga for years too, and it's the first time I've had a
problem with the ROMs. But it's definitely the ROMs that are the
problem. When I replaced them with my 3.0 chips everything was fine.

Gerry

Sender: Tony
Subject: [afb] Pagestream 2?
Date:     5 Jan 78 20:19:38 +0000

Hi

> Hi All
> Epic has sent me a new flyer.They've got Pagestream 2 for sale for a
> tenner.Is it worth buying?I would love vers 4 but a tad to expensive
> for me right now.
> Tony

Not really, as all graphics images are displayed in black and white,
not even grey scale. Ok as long as it's simple pages you're making up,
though. I have Pagestream 2.2 off a coverdisk. It is able to import a
pretty good variety of piccy formats though. It's good as a sampler
for version 4, and a lot quicker than Wordworth 7.

-- 
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http://web.ukonline.co.uk/members/bruceruff
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Amiga 1200, Apollo12030 accellerator, MMU, FPU, 8mb fast ram, ext
floppy drive, IOBlix 1200p parallel port, Mitsubishi 3.5 gb hard
drive, Hitachi 16x CD Rom drive, Pace 56k (v90) external modem, ADI
15" SVGA monitor, Power scandoubler/flickerfixer, Canon BJC620
printer, Mustek 600CP ScanExpress Scanner. Power 4x bufered interface.
=====================================================================

> >> > That's not "knowing", that's inferring.
> [snip]
>
> >> So, I inferred knowingly. Sue me.  ;)
>
> > After lengthy discussions (one email from my tertiary minion) elsewhere,
the
> > afb-ot legal system has decided to accept your challenge.  Please join
us
> > over on afb-ot (blank email to afb-ot-subscribe@egroups.com) where your
> > trial is about to begin...
>
> I'll send my solicitor.  :)

We have eaten your solicitor (well, we fed him to the yeti (tastes like
ol^H^Hchicken, apparently)).  Please attend in person, or send beer next
time.

Martin.
--
http://www.amine.co.uk  ICQ: 61700031

As I'm going to live in the Southwest (near Lyme Regis) I would like to
know
if there is a Amiga group in that area.
This might look like a stupid question, but I live in the Netherlands
and know there
is a group out there, but I don't know where.

thanx
maarten

Phil Allen said, 

> "neil bothwick" <nei-@wire.net.uk> wrote: 
>> 
>> You are. I wrote that article and I'm more than happy to discuss it's
>> contents. But it would be discourteous to Ben to discuss it on here.

> And there was me thinking that this was an open forum for Amiga users.

It isn't quite open, there are limits, as with any forum. I feel it is
ill-mannered to discuss my work in AA on this list, as a guest of AF.

> What a fool. Not to worry, I believe this is a misunderstanding between
> standards of social behaviour in the 'real world' and the world of the
> list.

The standards are the same, . would you buy a product from Power and
then phone Eyetech for tech support?

> As an editor for the aforementioned un-nameable magazine,

It is both namable and mentionable, just inappropriate to discuss the
contents.

> perhaps you
> can tell me how to get on to the relevant list.

Go to http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/amigactive

> Please don't point me
> to the website, it doesn't help.

It ahould be there, but you don't need to look now.

> Assume I'm a thick, over-sensitive
> idiot and explain it to me in words of one syllable.

I wouldn't assume that about anyone. I only treat people like that after
they've demonstrated those characteristics beyond reasonable doubt.

> And no smileys, I
> don't understand them either.

I suggest you learn about them, otherwise you will frequently
misunderstand the meaning of mails. At least follow the basic rule that
any statement ending in a smiley shouldn't be taken too seriously.


Neil
-- 
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The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
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        (n.) The process of such erasure.

Hi Marco 
    First off they would only use the tune and make up ther own words for
the marketing campaign, most people hearing the tune would think "The Boxer"
and thus remember the name by association. :-)

On 27-Feb-00, you wrote:

> Il 26-Feb-00, fool scrisse:\n

>>>     How about "The Boxer" by Simon & Garfunkle?

>> "All lies and jest, still a man hears what he wants to hear and
>> disregards the rest", in a marketting campaign?


Isn't that what all Amiga users do and disregard the PC/Microsoft hype :-)


> "After changes upon changes, we are more or less the same"

Won't the Boxer be different but still use Amiga os :-)

> and also

> "For a pocket full of mumbles, such are promises" ;-))))

Haven't we heard lots of mumbling from various companies making promises over
the last few years :-)


/me reverts to quiet mode again :-)

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Hi all,

Needed my OS3.5 emergency disk today after using ReOrg on my boot
partition (don't do it, reorganising under 3.5 will *screw* your boot
partition!!).
Trouble was, the bloody thing didn't work! Firstly it wouldn't mount
CD0: (which I fixed with the help of my CD=B3=B2 boot disk), then once it
mounted CD0: I realised that my HD was nowhere to be seen!!

Why is this happening? My HD just disappears after the startup-sequence
has loaded the system updates (it isn't there after the reset).
Also, why does the computer take so bloody long to reboot after the
floppy reset?

Good job I had my old HD as before to rely upon, although that wasn't
straight forward due to both the old and new physical names being DHx:

I am running a Fujitsu 4.3Gb 3.5" HD, and a Memorex IDE CDRW 2216.


Steven Holmes
 

Hello Mark

Do U have it already. If not, pleez let me know, 'cause I have.

mail U
maarten

in a fit of rage Sam Thomas said something about [afb] Skinable CD Player?

> Does amyone know if there is a  CD player for  WB which can be used with
> skins?
> (like amigaAMP , or Ticker)

MCD Player? usually part of the CDFS2 distro.
 
> excuse te speeling buty I am a bit,pissed

and youse my best mate you are, a right diamond, and I luv ya... ;)
-- 
Anthony Prime
>>Powered by Amiga in Crewe
anthony@prime.clara.co.uk

Hi there,

"stephen thwaites" <stephe-@thwaity.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=49055
> Hi
> 
> I've just been reading in Amigactive that the Amiga website has been
> redesigned, yet I cant seem to find it. The old website is still
around.
> 
> Does anyone know when this new website is getting launched?

Could anyone actually answer Stephen's orginal question becuase I'd
like to know too.

Andy

On Sun, 27 Feb 2000, Maarten Draijer wrote:

> Hello Mark
> 
> Do U have it already. If not, pleez let me know, 'cause I have.

Yep, I got everything I needed! Thanks very much to everyone who helped.
I'm now able to blame my academic failure on Cannon Fodder ;)

Mark_H

Hi Everybody,

> God I love Frontier: Elite II!!! I've court wind that First
> Encounters and Elite III will be ported to the Amiga. I bluddy
> hope so!!!

   First Encounters /and/ Elite III? Aren't they the same thing?

Anyway, FE is quite old now, and I suspect that it'd work fine on a PPC p=
c emulator anyway :)  (although if it were ported, I'd hope they sort *al=
l the bugs out* etc. and give the engine a modern makeover, hi-res suppor=
t etc ;)

See ya :)
-- =

       Manta Soft  -  Amiga programing & web page designing
          http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/       ICQ: 21829166
          Homepage updated 22/1/00 - Large hompage update       =

  - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- -
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Got the archive, and uploaded just now.  See:

http://members.xoom.com/greenpizza/
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Hello Bert,

On 27-Feb-00, you wrote:

> *Question*
> Is there anyway we can track down this software since calling CBM
> would not do any good, would it?

Try http://home.t-online.de/home/r.benda/ , go down the page, right
under the Commodore logo there are some links. You will find virtually
every driver ever released by Commodore, the link you should be looking
for is "Kickstart Roms - Entwickler/Beta-Software", there you will find
the Janus Software.

Now if you wonder why this guy is placing all these copyrighted files on
his homepage - he was working at Commodore Germany and was responsible
for their developer/support mailbox, and basically he is offering the
same files that were available via BBS on this site because they aren't
available anywhere else anymore.

Regards
-- 
Oliver Esberger - mailto:oliver@websale.de

On 27-Feb-00, Steven wrote:

> pretty fast in 640x512 - 800x600, but has a few gfx glitches in all
> screenmodes (15 bit only IIRC) I tried it in. And finally, it was v

What machine and whats the fps for them?

Mash - 
-- 
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.mashman.co.uk

Country Music - the Special Olympics of music.

On 27-Feb-00, Jim Spratt wrote:

> 1. Mash, remember TV pictures are interlaced, but you don't see the
> flicker as there are no sharp changes of colour. Load a JPG using visage
> on a 640*512 screen and you'll see what I mean

I know, thats how magictv works, but what does that have to do with anything
thats been said

Mash - 
-- 
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.mashman.co.uk

Drink til she gets cute, stop before you get married...

Hello,

Has anyone got Jeff Minter's Mutant Camels game?  Originally on an Amiga
Format "Down at the arcade" cover disk (sorry disk doesn't have a
number/date).

Thankz...

dRX - dRX@miggybyte.freeserve.co.uk

http://www.miggybyte.freeserve.co.uk/totaled

Hey Oliver

On 27-feb-00, you wrote:

> Hello Bert,
> =

> Try http://home.t-online.de/home/r.benda/ =


Thanks Oliver. I've forwarded this to my brother. As soon as he has some =
results I'll let you know.

Regards
-- =

Bert Volders

bert@volders.demon.nl
<sb>
Tag of the day:
What happens to the hole when the cheese is gone?
-- Bertolt Brecht

On 27-Feb-00, Andrew Hall wrote:

>> Does anyone know when this new website is getting launched?
> 
> Could anyone actually answer Stephen's orginal question becuase I'd
> like to know too.

Me too.I'd have thought it would just replace the old one (amiga.com)..
-- 
<sb>Geo

On 27-Feb-00, Andrew Crowe wrote:

> Anyway, FE is quite old now, and I suspect that it'd work fine on a PPC=
 pc emulator
> anyway :) (although if it were ported, I'd hope they sort *all the bugs=
 out* etc.
> and give the engine a modern makeover, hi-res support etc ;)

Well,I wouldn't wanna pay =A3100 for a PPC PC emulator just to play First=
 Encounters..
Anyway it is being ported isn't it? By Alive Mediasoft? (can't remember)
Can't wait :D

Seeya.
-- =

<sb>Geo

This is my point about Amiga hardware.

What is a person to do if he owns a piece of Amiga hardware, which is
not set up to go on the net but seems to work fine, say a 500? Does he
go and buy a 1200, a 3000, 4000? Where from? Supposing he tracks down a
supplier and sends of for a 1200 pack what does he do then? The basic
pack won't do much more than the 500, which still works. He is a long
way off (and a lot of money off,) anything workable with a hard drive,
extended memory, accelerator, flicker fixer, monitor and decent
software.

It's no good saying people in this position should "Support the Amiga
cause," because the average person doesn't care a jot about the cause
of any computer system =96 why should he?

Naturally, he buys a PC and perceives the 500 as redundant and it is
filed away with other used toys. 

Now, if this out-of-date little gem (A500) was presented by the Amiga
press as something great which will do all sorts I believe there are
many electronics enthusiasts who would put them to all manner of uses.
Examples? Model train control, lighting display control, video titling,
label printing  =96 the list is endless, as everybody knows.  Until
recently Photo-me used Atari's for their card printing machines. I also
believe those two-dimensional games like pacman, space invaders and
Tetris etc are as popular as ever. I have just bought a 22" 15625hz
monitor (five pounds in a charity shop!) to build into a space invaders
consul which I will power from an A500. Surely I am not the only
engineer who enjoys this kind of project.

I have also wondered if AF could do joint projects with some
electronics magazine to reach a wider readership. 

This is just my view; to me it is a shame that such useful hardware is
left to rot.

Cheers

Will. 

Hi Peter,

> There some new CGFXdrivers via my Fusion FAQ page!

Um..where? I looked on the Fusion bit, and the only linkl was to
J.Fentons page... and he's removed the Fusion stuff. I got v3.2 and
3.3 from there originally, but the cgx homepage contains a spatch type
patch that only works on 3.1 drivers, so I can't get it to work.

> I have a  Fusion Hardfile you could use!

Downloaded it last week too, but haven't tried it yet. I'll see if I
can get Fusion to boot my SS Hardfile - it crashed before, but I was
using a link from the SS hardfilenanme to fusions MSHardfile00 name in
its HardFile dir.  As it was 128MB I didn't want to copy it. I could
just move it and change SS prefs though... but as I said Fusion
crashed when booting it.

> SS is dated now.
> Visit my web site below for more info!

True, but it works for me ;)

Cya
Steven.

Hi Mash,

> > pretty fast in 640x512 - 800x600, but has a few gfx glitches in all
> > screenmodes (15 bit only IIRC) I tried it in. And finally, it was v

> What machine and whats the fps for them?

A1200T, with 604e @ 200 MHz, 060/50 and 96MB with CVPPC
fps unknown.. it crashes. The other quake ports get about 20 though
and this seemed faster. Sorry can't be more precise than that.

Cya,
Steven.

Hi fool

> > I'll send my solicitor.  :)
>
> We have eaten your solicitor (well, we fed him to the yeti (tastes like
> ol^H^Hchicken, apparently)).  Please attend in person, or send beer next
> time.

Oooh yes, beer please!

--
The Yeti (AKA The Earl of Swirl) - theyeti@afb-ot.co.uk
http://www.afb-ot.co.uk

"steven" <sp-@sliders.demon.co.uk> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=49155

>  And finally, it was v
> unstable on my system - in fact I could only watch the 1st demo, since
> trying to get the menu up crashed it, and after the first demo was
> completed it crashed too. 
> 

The game will crash as you suggest unless yout type "GLQuakeWOS >nil:"
at the command prompt.  Also, make sure you have a stack of 500000
bytes.

I have found the port to be stable, but in need of a speed boost on my
200mhz 603e + BVision (which the author promises will happen once he
optimises the code).

Cheers,
Dan.

gerald mellor <baugli-@utumno.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=49124
> On 27-Feb-00, Will wrote:
> 
> No one says you have to believe anything will come of
> it, but AF report it anyway in order to keep their readers informed of
> the current state of the Amiga market.

Two guys in a pub?

> Your original post was
> complaining about AF looking to the future, ISTR. The News section
> could hardly look to the past.

As there isn`t any real News why not drop the section and devote the
resouces elsewhere. The only News I will believe is a working model
comming off a production line.


Cheers

Will.  

Hi Dan,

> > unstable on my system - in fact I could only watch the 1st demo, since
> > trying to get the menu up crashed it, and after the first demo was
> > completed it crashed too. 

> The game will crash as you suggest unless yout type "GLQuakeWOS >nil:"
> at the command prompt.  Also, make sure you have a stack of 500000
> bytes.

Ah. I ran it with just GLQuakeWOS -width 800 -height 600 -buf 2

Stack was at 1500000 though, so thats ok. I'll try redirecting see if
that helps.

Cya,
Steven

On 27 Feb 00, at 15:22, Will wrote:

>> No one says you have to believe anything will come of
>> it, but AF report it anyway in order to keep their readers informed of
>> the current state of the Amiga market.
> 
> Two guys in a pub?

That was just a picture to illustrate the news article, which you 
obviously didn't read.

> As there isn`t any real News why not drop the section and devote the
> resouces elsewhere. The only News I will believe is a working model
> comming off a production line.

You wouldn't call Amiga being bought by another company "real 
News"? I think most people want to know what's going on with the 
Amiga, even if you don't.

Gerry

Hi Will you wrote....

> This is my point about Amiga hardware.
> 
> What is a person to do if he owns a piece of Amiga hardware, which is
> not set up to go on the net but seems to work fine, say a 500? Does he
> go and buy a 1200, a 3000, 4000? Where from? Supposing he tracks down a
> supplier and sends of for a 1200 pack what does he do then? The basic
> pack won't do much more than the 500, which still works. He is a long
> way off (and a lot of money off,) anything workable with a hard drive,
> extended memory, accelerator, flicker fixer, monitor and decent
> software.

I agree entirely.The fact that 1200 Magic packs are still advertised
is nothing short of a farce.These machines arn't even the official
entry level system any more.If the new AMIGA inc are serious about
supporting the classic line as much as they can then they should
rectify this asap.The remaining machines should be towered and
upgraded and be internet ready.The retail price might be high but I
bet the remaining stock would soon sell out.

> 
> It's no good saying people in this position should "Support the Amiga
> cause," because the average person doesn't care a jot about the cause
> of any computer system  why should he?

Why indeed?Unless the system is a viable alternative.The Amiga is a
brand name.
 
> Naturally, he buys a PC and perceives the 500 as redundant and it is
> filed away with other used toys. 
> 
> Now, if this out-of-date little gem (A500) was presented by the Amiga
> press as something great which will do all sorts I believe there are
> many electronics enthusiasts who would put them to all manner of uses.
> Examples? Model train control, lighting display control, video titling,
> label printing   the list is endless, as everybody knows.  Until
> recently Photo-me used Atari's for their card printing machines. I also
> believe those two-dimensional games like pacman, space invaders and
> Tetris etc are as popular as ever. I have just bought a 22" 15625hz
> monitor (five pounds in a charity shop!) to build into a space invaders
> consul which I will power from an A500. Surely I am not the only
> engineer who enjoys this kind of project.
> 
> I have also wondered if AF could do joint projects with some
> electronics magazine to reach a wider readership. 
> 
> This is just my view; to me it is a shame that such useful hardware is
> left to rot.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Will. 

Great idea Will.The only way I could see any sort of project for the
500 getting started is with a software developer having  a crack at it
ie model trains.They could then present the running system to that
market,Model train mags etc.There could be some money to be made for
any softies brave enough to give it a go.
Tony.



-- 
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3,5 GIG HD  24 CDROM      *
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SURF WITH VOYAGER 3      *
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Hi folks,

Since installing 3.5 I no longer get the fake icons to appear (e.g.
html.info for a html file). I have deficons in my system aswell as
deficons.prefs in Envarc: and I still have all the corresponding
def_xxxx.info files.

Has this happened to anybody else?

I'm stumped (that ain't hard is it Ben) :)

Stephen

-- 
http://www.iweb.net.au/~amiganut/default.htm

> Since installing 3.5 I no longer get the fake icons to appear (e.g.
> html.info for a html file).

you mean def_html.info?

> I have deficons in my system aswell as deficons.prefs in Envarc:
> and I still have all the corresponding def_xxxx.info files.

.. ah, you do ;)

> Has this happened to anybody else?

Go and get Deficons44 from Aminet, and install it. Not a hack,
DefIcons is built in to OS3.5 ;)

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

> > But [Mac]IE5 really trounces them by being 100% STANDARDS
> > compliant, and also 100% compliant with Microsoft's
> > extensions *too*.
> 
> > 200% compliant, then :)
> 
> ...except for the Java VM that comes with it, I'm told by a 
> friend that it *still* has that nasty DLL support that MS added
> in, thereby defeating the entire purpose of Java in the first
> place.

So use the Apple MRJ then.. you can easily get rid of the Microsoft
Java VM, it's just an extension easily deleted. The Apple one is
slower, but more compliant with the standards.

And it's not like the Microsoft JVM isn't compliant with the standards
ANYWAY, it just adds things in that aren't specced by Sun, which
people use and then break other Javas. Sun are stopping it anyway..

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

> Does anyone know why Blittesoft's web site is down?

I'll give you a hint: webservers go down all the time,
ISP's hold obselete DNS information for hours at a time,
routers break, people mess with CGI scripts and sometimes
your connection is just way too slow.

i.e. quit worrying! It doesn't matter that teh website
is inaccessible for the few times you tried it, and it
doesn't matter what caused it either.

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

"neil bothwick" <nei-@wire.net.uk> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=49191
> Phil Allen said, 
> 
> > "neil bothwick" <nei-@wire.net.uk> wrote: 
> >> 
> >> You are. I wrote that article and I'm more than happy to discuss
it's
> >> contents. But it would be discourteous to Ben to discuss it on
here.
> 
> > And there was me thinking that this was an open forum for Amiga
users.
> 
> It isn't quite open, there are limits, as with any forum. I feel it is
> ill-mannered to discuss my work in AA on this list, as a guest of AF.

Perhaps I am wrong, but I thought the original query, rather than
discussing any person's work, was raised by something seen in AA. As
such I would imagine it would be relevant to any amiga user.
 
> > What a fool. Not to worry, I believe this is a misunderstanding
between
> > standards of social behaviour in the 'real world' and the world of
the
> > list.
> 
> The standards are the same, . would you buy a product from Power and
> then phone Eyetech for tech support?

I refer to 'social behaviour'. In the same way that a stranger may
approach me asking for directions, if I brush him off with a curt
'wrong town', I would rightly be regarded as rude.
  
 
> Go to http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/amigactive
> 
Thankyou for your invaluable help.

Regards, Phil

That's right, for good or Ill, I'm back... Let's see if the bickering has
ceased....
-- 
Robert Johnston (A.C.P.)
Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
0870 727 4020 x657
Free delivery on the Web @ http://www.simply.co.uk

Hello

I was wondering if anyone knows when the new Amiga website is
launching? I've seen a picture of it and it looks pretty good.

Regards
Stephen Thwaites

(Is this better?)

On Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:43:41 +1000, Stephen (amiganut@iweb.net.au) wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> Since installing 3.5 I no longer get the fake icons to appear (e.g.
> html.info for a html file). I have deficons in my system aswell as
> deficons.prefs in Envarc: and I still have all the corresponding
> def_xxxx.info files.
> 
> Has this happened to anybody else?
> 
> I'm stumped (that ain't hard is it Ben) :)

Get DefIcons44 of aminet then!!

Kev

-- 
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM

> Hello
> 
> I was wondering if anyone knows when the new Amiga website is
> launching?

Real Soon Now (TM)

> I've seen a picture of it and it looks pretty good.

Where?

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

Hi Matt

"sealey, m." <mws-@leicester.ac.uk> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=49224
> > Hello
> > 
> > I was wondering if anyone knows when the new Amiga website is
> > launching?
> 
> Real Soon Now (TM)


Great

> > I've seen a picture of it and it looks pretty good.
> 
> Where?


just dont go there Matt, please!!! :-)

> > > I've seen a picture of it and it looks pretty good.
> > 
> > Where?
> 
> just dont go there Matt, please!!! :-)

Huh?

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

Hallo There,

> As I'm going to live in the Southwest (near Lyme Regis) I would like
to
> know
> if there is a Amiga group in that area.
> This might look like a stupid question, but I live in the Netherlands
> and know there
> is a group out there, but I don't know where.

Oh, I be from North Devon I be! :)  Seriously, the only user groups I
can think of are SWAG in Bristol/North Devon. (which I belong to) and
PAUG in Portsmouth.  North Devon, in Bideford where occassionally a
meet in a brewery is held and is about an hour and a halfs drive. 
Portsmouth is about as far.  Pretty good travel routes to North Devon
(A35 -> M5 -> A361 -> A39 to Bideford) and Portsmouth is the otherway
(A35 -> A31 -> M27).

Where abouts near Lyme Regis?  Charmouth?  Lyme Regis is a lovely place
in the Summer! :)

All the best,

Nick.

Hi Matthew,

>> For someone who left the list a while back because of an arguement, or
>> whatever; you seem very keen to keep this one going.

> I know.... but Ben /still/ seem reluctant to do anything about it :/

I'll ban you both if that's what it takes. Just bleeding well leave it out,
both of you. I don't want to hear another off-topic post or late reply from
either of you...

All the best,
-- 
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Editor, Amiga Format                             F: (+44) 01225 732275
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Just want the news on what's going to be in the next issue of 
Amiga Format? Go to http://www.egroups.com/list/afb-announce

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Vost [mailto:ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk]
> Sent: 28 February 2000 11:14
> To: afb@egroups.com
> Subject: [afb] Re: limit
> 
> >> For someone who left the list a while back because of an 
> arguement, or
> >> whatever; you seem very keen to keep this one going.
> 
> > I know.... but Ben /still/ seem reluctant to do anything about it :/
> 
> I'll ban you both if that's what it takes. Just bleeding well 
> leave it out,
> both of you. I don't want to hear another off-topic post or 
> late reply from
> either of you...

There's lists set up for that sort of thing (Namely AFB-OT and the newly-set
up AFB-Late-Reply)...

And Ben, surely it'd be "READ another..." not "Hear another..." :))

j/k
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On Sat, 26 Feb 2000, Sean FT wrote:

> I have CyberGraphX aswell that is why i was so shocked at the price.I kno=
w i
> keep going on=20
> about it but i only paid =A38.80(29DM)as it was a update,but as far as i =
know
> the full version
> only costs =A315(49DM)!.

yes - buy direct from schatzruhe

alan

"stephen thwaites" <stephe-@thwaity.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=49222
> Hello
> 
> I was wondering if anyone knows when the new Amiga website is
> launching? I've seen a picture of it and it looks pretty good.
> 
> Regards
> Stephen Thwaites
> 
> (Is this better?)
> 

Very diplomatic ;-)

Incidentally, AA's list is accessable through 
http://www.onelist.com/group/amigactive

Thank Neil B for that.

Regards, Phil  

> I say Viva Amiga and other OS's that don't need 24M RAM to themselves!
> 
> Does anyone know if the new (being produced) Amiga OS will be
compatable
> with mac Hardware? After all, a Mac G4 shouldn't be that different
from
> an IBM POP machine with a G4 processor. Here's hoping.

Elate VP code, runs on the PPC,.. so any program written in that form
(i.e AmigaOS) will run on said hardware,. whats not obvious is how you
could boot directly into amigaos (as opposed to waiting days for OS9 to
load), cos the Mac ROMS really, really want to find MacOS. - i tried
(suffered), to get SuSE linux for the PPC to work on an old 604e 5400,
and its was hell.

-matthew   

Hi Stephen,

> I've just been reading in Amigactive that the Amiga website has been
> redesigned, yet I cant seem to find it. The old website is still around.

> Does anyone know when this new website is getting launched?

Probably later this month (March). Is it really a big deal to know this?

All the best,
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"c:Setpatch BUGS=OFF QUIET"

Hi Peter,

> Also, replace the YAM02P7 with the full YAM 2.0 as well which has been
> out for ages as well. Also, VirusZ has been updated recently as well.

I noticed that when I needed to re-install YAM on my machine at home...
that's already done for AFCD51.

All the best,
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"ben vost" <ben.vos-@futurenet.co.uk> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=49233
> Hi Stephen,
> 
> > I've just been reading in Amigactive that the Amiga website has been
> > redesigned, yet I cant seem to find it. The old website is still
around.
> 
> > Does anyone know when this new website is getting launched?
> 
> Probably later this month (March). Is it really a big deal to know
this?
> 
Oh god yes :-)

Phil Allen said, 

> "neil bothwick" <nei-@wire.net.uk> wrote: 

>> It isn't quite open, there are limits, as with any forum. I feel it is
>> ill-mannered to discuss my work in AA on this list, as a guest of AF.

> Perhaps I am wrong, but I thought the original query, rather than
> discussing any person's work, was raised by something seen in AA. As
> such I would imagine it would be relevant to any amiga user.

It probably is, but that doesn't affect the fact that it would be very
rude of me to discuss my work for AA on Ben's list.

>> > What a fool. Not to worry, I believe this is a misunderstanding
> between
>> > standards of social behaviour in the 'real world' and the world of
> the
>> > list.
>> 
>> The standards are the same, . would you buy a product from Power and
>> then phone Eyetech for tech support?

> I refer to 'social behaviour'. In the same way that a stranger may
> approach me asking for directions, if I brush him off with a curt
> 'wrong town', I would rightly be regarded as rude.

That's hardly a fair analogy. How about walking into Dixons with a
Comet branded product and asking them to fix it? The assistant would
most likely say "We can't deal with that here" (assuming you could
actually find one willing to talk to you).

The reply was not curt, although it was short. That's often the nature
of email, most people type a lot slower than they can talk, and one of
the reasons for the use of smilies.


Neil
-- 
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The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
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-- 
Dyslexics of the world, untie!

Sealey, M. said, 

>> Does anyone know why Blittesoft's web site is down?

> i.e. quit worrying! It doesn't matter that teh website
> is inaccessible for the few times you tried it, and it
> doesn't matter what caused it either.

In this case it appears that the site stayed up, but the page for the
Fusion upgrade was unavailable. This is because Blittersoft have
withdrawn the upgrade. No reasons given as yet.


Neil
-- 
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The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
http://www.wire.net.uk
-- 
Hard work has a future payoff.  Laziness pays off NOW!

> > i.e. quit worrying! It doesn't matter that teh website
> > is inaccessible for the few times you tried it, and it
> > doesn't matter what caused it either.
> 
> In this case it appears that the site stayed up, but the page for the
> Fusion upgrade was unavailable. This is because Blittersoft have
> withdrawn the upgrade. No reasons given as yet.

It may be down to the fact that some people were getting the
last-person-to-order's details inserted into their Checkout form,
which was a little worrying for ME at least.

No credit card details or anything were shown, but full postal
addresses and telephone numbers and email addresses appeared in
the form I filled out: I thought it could have been a glitch
as I cancelled that one (it kept adding a second copy of the
order to the list) and it didn't happen a second time..

Y'think?

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

On Thu, 24 Feb 2000 10:47:41 +0000, Ben Vost (ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk) wrote:

> Talking of which, it would be nice to update the tools part of the AFCD.
> What do you all think should be in there?

Going off memory (I forget what is already on the CD) here's a list of
stuff i think should be on each CD :-

IDEFix & HDInstTools
SCSI_List
DiskSalv
A dir util such as RO  (a poor man's DOpus 4)
ABackup
TheGuru
ARTM / SnoopDOS / Scout


Naturally, the latest versions of all would be preferable  :-)


Hope this helps,

Kev

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On 28 Feb 2000 10:5:16 +0000, Neil Bothwick (neil@wire.net.uk) wrote:

> In this case it appears that the site stayed up, but the page for the
> Fusion upgrade was unavailable. This is because Blittersoft have
> withdrawn the upgrade. No reasons given as yet.

Because it's mainly bug fixes and it should be free to those of us who have
ordered and pre-paid for the PPC module?

Kev

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Fairhurst [mailto:redvers@redvers.u-net.com]
> Sent: 28 February 2000 11:57
> To: afb@egroups.com
> Subject: [afb] AFCD tools ....
> 
> > Talking of which, it would be nice to update the tools part 
> of the AFCD.
> > What do you all think should be in there?
> 
> Going off memory (I forget what is already on the CD) here's a list of
> stuff i think should be on each CD :-
> 
> IDEFix & HDInstTools
> SCSI_List
> DiskSalv
> A dir util such as RO  (a poor man's DOpus 4)
> ABackup
> TheGuru
> ARTM / SnoopDOS / Scout

IIRC, these are all in there anyways... Or was that CU?
-- 
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Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
0870 727 4020 x657
Free delivery on the Web @ http://www.simply.co.uk

"neil bothwick" <nei-@wire.net.uk> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=49236
> >I refer to 'social behaviour'. In the same way that a stranger may
> > approach me asking for directions, if I brush him off with a curt
> > 'wrong town', I would rightly be regarded as rude.
> 
> That's hardly a fair analogy. How about walking into Dixons with a
> Comet branded product and asking them to fix it? The assistant would
> most likely say "We can't deal with that here" (assuming you could
> actually find one willing to talk to you).
> 
> The reply was not curt, although it was short. That's often the nature
> of email, most people type a lot slower than they can talk, and one of
> the reasons for the use of smilies.
> 
> 
Fair cop.../snip/ ;-)

Regards, Phil

-- 
Ave Mellas                   

Del resto, la predica fa come la nebbia lascia il tempo che trova.

On Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:09:33 +0200, Marco Amadori (elessar@dei.unipd.it) wrote:
> -- 
> Ave Mellas                   
> 
> Del resto, la predica fa come la nebbia lascia il tempo che trova.

According to babelfish:

Of the rest, it foretells it ago as the fog leaves the time that it finds. 


Umm .... okay ...

Kev

-- 
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM

Hi Phil,

>>> Does anyone know when this new website is getting launched?
>> 
>> Probably later this month (March). Is it really a big deal to know
> this?
>> 
> Oh god yes :-)

Can I ask why? Just because it's having a redesign, doesn't mean it'll be
any different, so why the eagerness?

All the best,
-- 
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Editor, Amiga Format                             F: (+44) 01225 732275
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Il 28-Feb-00, Kevin Fairhurst scrisse:\n

>> Talking of which, it would be nice to update the tools part of the AFCD.
> stuff i think should be on each CD :-

> A dir util such as RO  (a poor man's DOpus 4)

Dopus4 can also be included since is now under GPL.

> ABackup
> ARTM / SnoopDOS / Scout
> DiskSalv 

Already present.

I think there must be also some latest version utility for OS3.5 like:

RAWInfo
WBCTRL

All from Stephan Rupprecht

http://stephan.2xs.de

> Naturally, the latest versions of all would be preferable  :-)

For sure.




-- 
Ave Mellas                   

Del resto, chi favella, fa schifo!

Il 27-Feb-00, Simon Brewer scrisse:\n


> I've just bought a big 20 gig hard drive for my Amiga.  =

> I use OS 3.5, which I know supports drives of these sizes now.  What I
> need

You only need to have the boot partition to be in the first 4 GB boundary=

cause the rom are patched on the first bootup.

For having no problem about booting from large partintions or a one over =
the
4GB boundaries we need a new kickstart rom.
 =

> to know is if there is a limit on the actual partition size.  I thought=

> I read
> somewhere that even though AmigaOS can use drives bigger than 4.3 gig,
> each partition cannot be larger than 4.3 gig in size.  =


false. Now you can use partition large 2^64 bytes.

> Is anyone else using a drive of this size with AmigaOS?  Are there any
> problems
> with HDToolbox on partitioning drives of this size?

No problem with HDtoolbox at all.

> Any help would be greatly appreciated,

This clue only works for OS3.5.

Please look at the OS Faq from amigaOS3_5@onelist.com:
also on aminet: docs/help/OS35FAQ.txt

http://ftp.unina.it/~aminet/aminet/docs/help/OS35FAQ.txt

-- =

Ave Mellas                   =


Del resto, i segreti pi=F9 importanti, non son pasto da ignoranti.

 Hello

> A1200T, with 604e @ 200 MHz, 060/50 and 96MB with CVPPC
> fps unknown.. it crashes. The other quake ports get about 20 though
> and this seemed faster. Sorry can't be more precise than that.

ONLY 20? Use Fast Quake 5.It is MUCH fast and rocky stable.
It may be still illegal and using PowerUP but you SHOULD try
it if you haven't already.
             Bye
-- 
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Stephen Thwaites said, 

>> > I was wondering if anyone knows when the new Amiga website is
>> > launching?

No idea, although I thought it would have been online by last week...

>> > I've seen a picture of it and it looks pretty good.
>> 
>> Where?

> just dont go there Matt, please!!! :-)

Matt is too busy posting to actually read other mails :)


Neil
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The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
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-- 
"Bother," said Pooh, as his 'B' sample tested positive.

 
> > > Where?
> 
> > just dont go there Matt, please!!! :-)
> 
> Matt is too busy posting to actually read other mails :)

Hey, I don't read AFB over the weekend and I have filters
set to delete mails over 2 days old: hence I have no clue
about what was discussed before this morning, apart from
a few stray files which stayed in the Inbox rather than
going to the AFB folder..

What picture?

-- 
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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

Hi Phil,

> Is there any need for this? AmigActive may be a rival publication but
> personally I think that without it, AF could have found itself sitting
> on its laurels. We can't afford to let mindless loyalty blind us to the
> benefits of healthy competition. Its this sort of unthinking xenophobic
> behaviour that's driven the Amiga to the wall. I buy both publications,
> what one doesn't cover, the other will, usually. If there were three
> Amiga magazines I'd buy all three, don't let prejudice become the
> watchword of AFB.

I'm sorry, but "sitting on our laurels"? That has really offended me. I make
a concerted effort to keep improving the mag and that's what I get? After
all the changes that have been made in AF while AA /wasn't even out yet?/
Even afb was started before AmigActive came out.

All the best,
-- 
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Editor, Amiga Format                             F: (+44) 01225 732275
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"I won't be on time", Tom said belatedly.

Hi Donald,

> In AF132, the Philips 109B monitor was reviewed and got 86% I think. It
> was said to be widely available but I can't find anyone who sells it
> and it appears to be both obselete and no longer available. Any
> comments on this?

Then they don't know what they're talking about. Perhaps they would be
better off saying they hadn't got it in yet for sale (but then they'd have
to admit that you know more than they do). It certainly isn't obsolete, as
much as any CRT monitor isn't (IYSWIM)...

All the best,
-- 
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Editor, Amiga Format                             F: (+44) 01225 732275
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Calm down.  It's only ones and zeros.

"ben vost" <ben.vos-@futurenet.co.uk> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=49251
> Hi Phil,
> 
> > Is there any need for this? AmigActive may be a rival publication
but
> > personally I think that without it, AF could have found itself
sitting
> > on its laurels. We can't afford to let mindless loyalty blind us to
the
> > benefits of healthy competition. Its this sort of unthinking
xenophobic
> > behaviour that's driven the Amiga to the wall. I buy both
publications,
> > what one doesn't cover, the other will, usually. If there were three
> > Amiga magazines I'd buy all three, don't let prejudice become the
> > watchword of AFB.
> 
> I'm sorry, but "sitting on our laurels"? That has really offended me. 

My apologies, it was not my intention to offend, merely to point out
that where only one viewpoint or opinion exists there is an inherent
danger that it will stagnate.

> I make a concerted effort to keep improving the mag and that's what I
get? 

I'm not trying to say the mag's bad, or that it doesn't improve. If it
either of those points were true, I'd cancel my subs

>After all the changes that have been made in AF while AA /wasn't even
out yet?/ Even afb was started before AmigActive came out.

Oh God, I've offended everyone. My only option is honourable
hari-kari...:-)

With regards and abject apologies for my continued and miserable
existence, Phil

Hi Phil,

> Oh God, I've offended everyone. My only option is honourable
> hari-kari...:-)

INCLUDING THE JAPANESE SPEAKERS ON THIS LIST!!! (actually :)

It's hara kiri, or seppuku.

> With regards and abject apologies for my continued and miserable
> existence, Phil

Now get out of my sight, worm... :)

All the best,
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2000 15:46:35 +0000, Ben Vost (ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk) wrote:

> > With regards and abject apologies for my continued and miserable
> > existence, Phil
> 
> Now get out of my sight, worm... :)

Air-strike him!!  Or send a herd of mad cows his way! :-)

Kev

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Hi Matthew,

>> Oooh, get this fact-fans! A TV picture is run at 24 frames/sec whereas
>> films are recorded at 25 fps 

> Yup, although the interlace makes it smoother in modern tv programs
> because they actually make use of them to get 50fps

Since no-one has replied to this, I shall. TV programs aren't broadcast at
50fps if you mean Frames Per Second by fps. If you mean 50 Fields per
Second, then yes they do, but a field is only half a frame, which is why TV
programmes are interlaced. Believe it or not, that's a frequency thing too.

All the best,
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